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 #158266  by HolyWarrior
 
Okay..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvwfVngcKGU

Upon this source. i didn't like the fact how Luke said it's time for the jedi to end brings an disappointment. I rather see the Jedi Order continue cuz there is force. They forget the fact that the galaxy has over billions of planets and i ain't gonna say how many Jedis have escaped but i can assure you there are billions of them hiding through the galaxy and their offsprings if they chose that path. In fact there are force sensitive users out there. There can't be any jedi or sith without the force. That's just the way it is. So why shrug it off and say hey let's make the Jedi a myth and a legend now.

I always visioned to see Star Wars bring the Jedi Order back and the force is brought back to balance. Think about it.. i rather see the end of Sith.We never see any Sith Orders. Are they really very discreet with that or are they all most in hiding or dead? However i still like to see Luke and Rey bring back the Jedi Order. That's my dream to see happen in the movie down the road. What do you think? It's time for the jedi to end?

Thoughts?

I don't wanna see the Jedi become a myth.
 #158339  by Mandalorian
 
The Jedi is a corrupt order. They blind themselves from human nature and often follow an immoral code. They are pretty much monks. Monks who believe in peace in the galaxy, yet they never learn how to achieve that peace. Jedi are known for their kindness, but kindness is not always the best path. If help is always offered, then help will always be requested. Powerful Jedi knew about this. Four great examples are of course Kreia, Jolee Bindo, Qui-gon Gin, and Ahsoka Tano.

These are the only "Jedi" who knew the true meaning of galactic peace, and their teachings should be followed. Take a look at all of their cases.

Kreia. She was a wise master, who not only taught her students, but learned from them. Should one of them "fall to the darkside", she would inspect why the student did such a thing, and work harder to prevent such falls. She is one of the only masters who accept their student's fall as their own failure. Did you ever see anyone take blame for what happened to Exar Kun? Darth Revan and Malak? How about Count Dooku or even Anakin Skywalker himself? All of those students' reasons were brushed aside and they just fell under the notation that it was the darkside, but what if it was the Jedi teachings that were flawed? Did they not foresee this? Powerful dark lords of the sith usually started out originally as Sith, is this the fault of the Jedi?

Jolee Bindo. He has lived through the Sith Wars against Exar Kun. He defied the teachings of the Jedi and because of this many people died. Jolee believed that he would be punished for abandoning the Jedi teachings that lead to many deaths, but instead he was welcomed back into the order, with no repercussions. If the Jedi behave this way, whats to stop them from doing this to another, and another? They do not take action for what is needed. Jolee learned his lesson, but the Jedi didn't make an example of him. And Jolee? He doesn't regret what he did to some extent. He fell in love, and taught his love how to use the force. That last bit is all he regrets, but he would never regret falling in love. He sees flaws in the Jedi order for being too distant from the world. Passion can lead to anger, and anger can lead to the darkside, but compassion and love is not the same as passion. One could fight compassionately, for the sake of saving something or someone. Fighting for something you love or believe in won't condemn your life, it might very well save it. He believes the Jedi should not prevent Jedi from feeling emotions, but to learn how to control them.

Qui-gon Gin. He was one of the few Jedi who truly understood the Force. He knew that the Force, no matter what, will have its way. The Force is all powerful like that, and no simple idea such as "Jedi" or "Sith" could be enough to describe it. He knew about destiny and unstoppable events, which many of the Jedi didn't agree with, since it went against their ideals. Jedi do believe in absolutes, but not in diversity of the Force. Qui-gon predicted balance in the Force, but not in the way the Jedi imagined it, and we see, he was right. Anakin did bring balance to the Force.

Ahsoka Tano. After being betrayed by her fellow Jedi, she understood just how corrupt their system is, and how reliant it is of the Republic at the time. During her years of self-searching, she learned that the best way to combat an enemy, is to understand them. This lead to her learning many Sith teachings and forms, while remaining true to her morals. She wouldn't consider herself a Jedi anymore, because the Jedi's viewpoints are very narrow. If you still believe in the righteousness of the Jedi, compare what Ahsoka is doing now and what the other remaining Jedi are doing to what happened nearly 3,000 years before this event...the same thing was happening. A great galactic threat was engulfing everything, and where are the Jedi? Scattered and broken. The few powerful Jedi masters decided to go into hiding, and cowered before their threat. Yoda, hiding his presence on the dark planet of Dagobah. Obi-wan, hiding his presence on Tatooine. And what is Ahsoka doing? Leading the Rebellion that eventually not only destroys the Death Star, but ends up scattering the Empire and restoring peace through the galaxy. Basically, the Jedi no matter which era you look at it, did nothing influential. Only those unique to the Force who dabbled in both sides influenced the galaxy in some way.

This brings us down to Luke Skywalker. He realizes these truths, that the Jedi code holds them back from victory, and he now more than ever sees the flaws in their teachings, since the fall of Kylo Ren. Even after all these years, the Jedi teachings still prove ineffective. Maybe it is time to stop, observe the galaxy for what it is, and decide what truly is right. #Kreia
 #158375  by HolyWarrior
 
Mind blowing post man.. interesting answer and information.. I really hope the stand alone Obi Wan Kenobi film with Ewan McGregor will be good.
 #158621  by Buffy's Shadow
 
Yes, but in the end, the attempt at rebuilding the Jedi Order by Luke, especially in the old Canon, is what I suspect made things so unbalanced in the first place. At the start of Episode V, there are two Sith and two Jedi. You have Vader and Palpatine on the one end, and Luke/Yoda on the other. Balance.

After Vader destroys Palpatine, and inadvertently himself in the process, that leaves Luke as the only one of the four mentioned above. That's where this unbalance came from I believe, and why in Episode 7, things have gone as South as they have.
 #158640  by HolyWarrior
 
I just don't know man, i saw the trailer and was well.. impressed and a little concerned.. like what does this mean? Raw power? Are they changing the way the force is?I still think George Lucas should direct the final episode and sequel of Star Wars. He can probably do it better if he worked with JJ Abrams perhaps but i know nothing of the director Rian Johnson. These are the list of his movies Breaking Bad (TV Series) (3 episodes)
- Ozymandias (2013)
- Fifty-One (2012)
- Fly (2010)
2012 Looper
2010 Terriers (TV Series) (1 episode)
- Manifest Destiny (2010)
2008 The Brothers Bloom
2008 The Mountain Goats: Woke Up New (Short)
2005 Brick
2002 The Psychology of Dream Analysis (Short)
2001 Ben Boyer and the Phenomenology of Automobile Branding (Short)
1996 Evil Demon Golfball from Hell!!! (Short)

I don't know what to say cuz i know nothing of his work or does he follow Star Wars. I am pretty sure behind closed doors some of these writers or directors may have spoke to Lucas or none at all.. i mean i am not sure whose the writer of this film i'd have to look it up. I am gonna stop there before we turn this thread in spoilers cuz i heard a lot of rumors and stuff about it.

As for raw power makes me think this has something to do with ancient ways of the force... i really seriously want to see Star Wars bring the Jedi Order back. If we end it.. how can we not have any more stories?

But for me.. i do know a stand alone Obi Wan Kenobi movie with Ewan Mcgregor would be so spot on since he is still right for his age and due to his success with fargo tv show performance. I know he said he'd do it.. it's just waiting game now and a script that needs to be written. I am pretty sure it will happen. I just hope they don't mess it up. I am stoked for Star Wars The Last Jedi. I wanted to know if it's wise to pre order tickets? I mean it could be like sold out man.. should i see it in 3D? On that last note i would like to apologize for not being so active lately cuz life gets in the way and wanted to mentioned that i recently had access to Star Wars Battlefront 2 beta and it was actually amazing and fun. It really stuns me and makes me think we really do need a Jedi and Sith PC game.. like seriously man. Why can't we band together a petition letter to Disney and see what they would say i mean they have tons of money and i am sure they can agree to accept our petition to have another Jedi Knight series PC game?

If we all could come up with a formal letter together and proof of video and chart rates of how many players frequently visited our server for 14 years *ahem * i am sure it's pretty longer and i am very certain if we can add all that formal letter request and petition with our names along the footage explaining why a new Jedi Knight series needs to happen. They'll see and realize it's a good chance to make a profit off the gaming community. I played Maul and he was ruthless in BF2 PC game. He can't deflect lightsaber blasts though in the game like the 1st BF1 remade they had. However i saw Rey blocking blasters gets me baffled why maul can't. It was a limited access anyways i couldn't test Rey in time before the beta end but i got to play Mual. I guess EA hasn't learned a damn thing about Jedis or Siths but the gameplay is fun.

Now i gotta stop typing cuz my hand is cramping and i have been playing way too much PC games this week. I seriously need a new chair and a new gaming desktop table to support my arms or i will end up having carpal tunnel which most of us gamers don't want to end up with if we rely on the mouse so much lol. Catch ya later fellas and will post back! Peace!