its not heat sensors, its a area pressure sensor that senses which side u click on.
PCs are better cuz they are so much more open, u can get any software on them becuz everything online is made for them. also, its actually possible to walk in to a store and buy internal hardware for PCs.......try that with a mac.....
PCs are better cuz they are so much more open, u can get any software on them becuz everything online is made for them. also, its actually possible to walk in to a store and buy internal hardware for PCs.......try that with a mac.....
PC's are better because I said so. End of debate.
Those who continue to debate will be subject to mass trauma courtesy of me, that is all, thank you.
Those who continue to debate will be subject to mass trauma courtesy of me, that is all, thank you.
Definitely mac.. they're just better overall in everything.. cept for gaming..
but even now they're making up for that by making deals with more companies (such as EA).
but even now they're making up for that by making deals with more companies (such as EA).
123456?
Raven wrote:You know, my quotes are not those kind of quotes you can use like keys on a keychain.
This will always be an on going argument
For certain things Macs are better at than PCs, and for some people they suit very well.
Despite people saying the games are what makes a PC better , and Macs are going to steal that off them is not actually the big picture..
The big portion is down to business, Windows networks and servers with Active Directory have unaparrelled competition. PC is far superirr in this element.
Apple have just not provided anything anywhere near up to the job.
For certain things Macs are better at than PCs, and for some people they suit very well.
Despite people saying the games are what makes a PC better , and Macs are going to steal that off them is not actually the big picture..
The big portion is down to business, Windows networks and servers with Active Directory have unaparrelled competition. PC is far superirr in this element.
Apple have just not provided anything anywhere near up to the job.
And was Jerusalem builded here amongst those dark satanic mills
The fact is the Mac is alot more advanced then the PC.
Most of the time PC companies rip off Mac software and claim it was them who made it. BS. They need to L2 Program, noobs.
Mac is also ALOT more simple to use.
For gaming Macs really havnt been arsed. The Mac leans more towards office use and casual home use not involving games.
Since i got rid of my PC and use my dads Mac. I now see Mac is way more superior. You just need to get the chance to settle down somewhere and take a mac for a test run
Most of the time PC companies rip off Mac software and claim it was them who made it. BS. They need to L2 Program, noobs.
Mac is also ALOT more simple to use.
For gaming Macs really havnt been arsed. The Mac leans more towards office use and casual home use not involving games.
Since i got rid of my PC and use my dads Mac. I now see Mac is way more superior. You just need to get the chance to settle down somewhere and take a mac for a test run
Sigma- All Blue
for the casual home user its down to personal preference
Macs have good advantages in certain things such as photo editing and graphic design and of course inheritly more secure.
However to say games going to come to the mac your in for a littel shock
Like it or not, Apples hard ware prices are scandelous, a decen graphics card on a Mac is not acceptable price.
For the gaming environment PC is by far a sole winner
For the office and co orporate business.. Mac is okay for a single end user or a very small business..
They simply do not have any infastructure to match what MS have done or collaboration. Then of course is core business apllications
one of which is Major is CAD and Engineering..
So to summarise it seems certainly to me to be like this
Mac:
Secure home enviroment
Good casual computer use (pesonal pref)
Pitucre and photo editing and some video
PC:
By far better in Business
Gaming
Casual user (pesonal pref)
More Hardware
Software
CAD
For me now I use PC, I do like the Mac interface and some of its quirks.. But its not enough for me.. I can do everything I like on a PC.. but only half the things I like need to on a Mac..
They need to develop those areas considerably for me to take another look.
Macs have good advantages in certain things such as photo editing and graphic design and of course inheritly more secure.
However to say games going to come to the mac your in for a littel shock
Like it or not, Apples hard ware prices are scandelous, a decen graphics card on a Mac is not acceptable price.
For the gaming environment PC is by far a sole winner
For the office and co orporate business.. Mac is okay for a single end user or a very small business..
They simply do not have any infastructure to match what MS have done or collaboration. Then of course is core business apllications
one of which is Major is CAD and Engineering..
So to summarise it seems certainly to me to be like this
Mac:
Secure home enviroment
Good casual computer use (pesonal pref)
Pitucre and photo editing and some video
PC:
By far better in Business
Gaming
Casual user (pesonal pref)
More Hardware
Software
CAD
For me now I use PC, I do like the Mac interface and some of its quirks.. But its not enough for me.. I can do everything I like on a PC.. but only half the things I like need to on a Mac..
They need to develop those areas considerably for me to take another look.
Chantelle
Darko wrote:Haha dont agree at all,Not they're not
In fact they are brilliant for business's.
I have no experience with Mac's in large offices.
But in smaller business, say, 5-10 people.
They are far better.
on a small network without a domain they may equal a PC at best..
But again the software and compatability could go against them so its swings and round abouts
Big business, forget it.
THis argument comes up time and time again, I always try to keep a balanced view point
However alot of thinsg people post are biased fanboyisms
Chantelle
Darko wrote:Haha dont agree at all,I am all up for a healthy balanced debate.. With proc and cons.. I think each has its own advantages
In fact they are brilliant for business's.
I have no experience with Mac's in large offices.
But in smaller business, say, 5-10 people.
They are far better.
But your talking nonsense.
And was Jerusalem builded here amongst those dark satanic mills
Chantelle wrote:I'd have to side with Darko on this one. I think Mac's work perfectly in a business environment however large the organisations ICT infrastructure. To be honest I think its using whatever operating system best suits your needs.Darko wrote:Haha dont agree at all,Not they're not
In fact they are brilliant for business's.
I have no experience with Mac's in large offices.
But in smaller business, say, 5-10 people.
They are far better.
on a small network without a domain they may equal a PC at best..
But again the software and compatability could go against them so its swings and round abouts
Big business, forget it.
THis argument comes up time and time again, I always try to keep a balanced view point
However alot of thinsg people post are biased fanboyisms
For example, the company www.holidayextras.co.uk. Their complete ICT infrastructure is all running on Macs. I'm sure there are other examples, but this is a company i've had first hand experience with.
Also as your probably well aware, its possible to run a virtual PC running an Windows OS inside the Mac. That way any programs that you may need to use that are strictly windows based you are able to easily run while still benefiting from the speed and secruity Mac provides.
Personally, i'm not a Mac hater, or Windows lover. My view is, that you use whatever operating system best suits your needs whatever that maybe.
Pho~
Why a Mac?
1. It just works.
How much time have you spent troubleshooting your PC? A computer designed by people who hate to waste time as much as you do. Where all the hardware and software just works, and works well together. Get a Mac and get your life back.
2. You can make amazing stuff.
Every Mac comes with iLife, a suite of software that transforms your photos, music, and video into all kinds of projects. Make high-quality websites, photo books, DVDs, songs, slideshows, music CDs, calendars, cards, prints, podcasts, music videos, documentaries, and more.
3. Everything-ready.
The Mac is the only computer in the world that can run all the major operating systems, including Mac OS X, Windows XP, and Vista. With software like Parallels Desktop or VMware Fusion you can even run them side by side.
4. 114,000 viruses? Not on a Mac.
Mac OS X was designed for high security, so it isn’t plagued by constant attacks from viruses and malware like PCs. Likewise, it isn’t plagued by never-ending security dialog boxes like those in Vista. So you can safely go about your work — or play — without interruption.
5. Still the most advanced OS.
No other operating system, Vista included, offers the rich features and simplicity of Mac OS X. With the new Mac OS X Leopard, the Mac leaps even farther ahead with new features that let you do more with less effort.
6. The latest Intel chips.
Intel Core 2 Duo processors are fast. As in really fast. But unlike any PC powered by Intel, the Mac runs Mac OS X — which is optimized to squeeze every bit of performance out of Intel’s engines.
7. No hunting for drivers.
Just about everything works with Mac — even the stuff you used with your old PC. All you have to do is plug it in. A Mac has USB drivers for printers, external drives, digital cameras, input devices, iPod, and more. It can see Bluetooth cell phones and headsets, as well as FireWire cameras. No rebooting, no hassles.
8. Design that turns heads.
You won’t want to hide your Mac in a corner of the den. You’ll want it front and center in your life. The Apple style shows in every detail, from its sculpted surfaces to its gorgeous Mac OS X graphics.
9. Instant video chats.
Setting up a video chat with the people next door — or across the globe — should be as simple as picking up the phone. On a Mac, you just click an icon to have a four-way video chat in a full-screen window with amazing clarity and special effects.
10. More fun with photos.
On a Mac, you don’t need any extra software to make a photo book. You don’t have to leave your photo software to visit a separate website and wait for forms to load. All you need is a camera and a Mac.
11. Hollywood-style movies.
Connect your DV camera and turn your movies into spectaculars. Add graphics, titles, and sound effects in minutes. Then use your Mac to burn a DVD or post to your website.
12. One-click websites.
How long does it take to post a photo or video to your blog on a PC? On a Mac, you can shoot a picture or a movie with the built-in camera, then post it on the web in a few clicks. Pontificate, preachify, and publish. The hardest part is coming up with something to say.
13. Amazing podcasts.
Want to get your message out to the world? Podcast it. A Mac makes it simple to create professional podcasts, complete with artwork. Add sound effects and jingles, even use the built-in radio engineer to make it perfect. So you can be a talk star in seconds.
14. Rock star tunemaking.
Musicians get all the girls (or guys). And a Mac has the software to turn you into the musician of your dreams. Choose from hundreds of cool riffs and instruments to create your own songs. Get good enough and you could be on iTunes.
15. Awesome out of the box.
Other computers include software, it’s true. But once you start using that software, you find that you’re hobbled in some way or another. Software included with the Mac, on the other hand, is critically acclaimed as best in class.
Stolen.
1. It just works.
How much time have you spent troubleshooting your PC? A computer designed by people who hate to waste time as much as you do. Where all the hardware and software just works, and works well together. Get a Mac and get your life back.
2. You can make amazing stuff.
Every Mac comes with iLife, a suite of software that transforms your photos, music, and video into all kinds of projects. Make high-quality websites, photo books, DVDs, songs, slideshows, music CDs, calendars, cards, prints, podcasts, music videos, documentaries, and more.
3. Everything-ready.
The Mac is the only computer in the world that can run all the major operating systems, including Mac OS X, Windows XP, and Vista. With software like Parallels Desktop or VMware Fusion you can even run them side by side.
4. 114,000 viruses? Not on a Mac.
Mac OS X was designed for high security, so it isn’t plagued by constant attacks from viruses and malware like PCs. Likewise, it isn’t plagued by never-ending security dialog boxes like those in Vista. So you can safely go about your work — or play — without interruption.
5. Still the most advanced OS.
No other operating system, Vista included, offers the rich features and simplicity of Mac OS X. With the new Mac OS X Leopard, the Mac leaps even farther ahead with new features that let you do more with less effort.
6. The latest Intel chips.
Intel Core 2 Duo processors are fast. As in really fast. But unlike any PC powered by Intel, the Mac runs Mac OS X — which is optimized to squeeze every bit of performance out of Intel’s engines.
7. No hunting for drivers.
Just about everything works with Mac — even the stuff you used with your old PC. All you have to do is plug it in. A Mac has USB drivers for printers, external drives, digital cameras, input devices, iPod, and more. It can see Bluetooth cell phones and headsets, as well as FireWire cameras. No rebooting, no hassles.
8. Design that turns heads.
You won’t want to hide your Mac in a corner of the den. You’ll want it front and center in your life. The Apple style shows in every detail, from its sculpted surfaces to its gorgeous Mac OS X graphics.
9. Instant video chats.
Setting up a video chat with the people next door — or across the globe — should be as simple as picking up the phone. On a Mac, you just click an icon to have a four-way video chat in a full-screen window with amazing clarity and special effects.
10. More fun with photos.
On a Mac, you don’t need any extra software to make a photo book. You don’t have to leave your photo software to visit a separate website and wait for forms to load. All you need is a camera and a Mac.
11. Hollywood-style movies.
Connect your DV camera and turn your movies into spectaculars. Add graphics, titles, and sound effects in minutes. Then use your Mac to burn a DVD or post to your website.
12. One-click websites.
How long does it take to post a photo or video to your blog on a PC? On a Mac, you can shoot a picture or a movie with the built-in camera, then post it on the web in a few clicks. Pontificate, preachify, and publish. The hardest part is coming up with something to say.
13. Amazing podcasts.
Want to get your message out to the world? Podcast it. A Mac makes it simple to create professional podcasts, complete with artwork. Add sound effects and jingles, even use the built-in radio engineer to make it perfect. So you can be a talk star in seconds.
14. Rock star tunemaking.
Musicians get all the girls (or guys). And a Mac has the software to turn you into the musician of your dreams. Choose from hundreds of cool riffs and instruments to create your own songs. Get good enough and you could be on iTunes.
15. Awesome out of the box.
Other computers include software, it’s true. But once you start using that software, you find that you’re hobbled in some way or another. Software included with the Mac, on the other hand, is critically acclaimed as best in class.
Stolen.
Sigma- All Blue
Phoenix wrote:Sorry AndyChantelle wrote:I'd have to side with Darko on this one. I think Mac's work perfectly in a business environment however large the organisations ICT infrastructure. To be honest I think its using whatever operating system best suits your needs.Darko wrote:Haha dont agree at all,Not they're not
In fact they are brilliant for business's.
I have no experience with Mac's in large offices.
But in smaller business, say, 5-10 people.
They are far better.
on a small network without a domain they may equal a PC at best..
But again the software and compatability could go against them so its swings and round abouts
Big business, forget it.
THis argument comes up time and time again, I always try to keep a balanced view point
However alot of thinsg people post are biased fanboyisms
For example, the company www.holidayextras.co.uk. Their complete ICT infrastructure is all running on Macs. I'm sure there are other examples, but this is a company i've had first hand experience with.
Also as your probably well aware, its possible to run a virtual PC running an Windows OS inside the Mac. That way any programs that you may need to use that are strictly windows based you are able to easily run while still benefiting from the speed and secruity Mac provides.
Personally, i'm not a Mac hater, or Windows lover. My view is, that you use whatever operating system best suits your needs whatever that maybe.
Pho~
Your very wrong
Mac doesnt have an Active directory or anything like its structure. they do not cater for mass sites and services.
yes you can take some businesses where it will work okay.
Like them or not, Apple simply do have any answer to that co orporate infactstructure
A lot of businesses couldnt move to Apple, it couldnt structure the network, they would not have anywhere near the services they require.
It is a totally different concept.
I have now worked in this industry for 7 years with other people who work in this for over 30 years varing back to old Cobol systems and *nix. Most of these people wouldnt even consider a Mac in a corporate environment.
Novell is the closest youll get to a competitor..
Chantelle
Darko wrote:Why a Mac?Wow a flyer!!
1. It just works.
How much time have you spent troubleshooting your PC? A computer designed by people who hate to waste time as much as you do. Where all the hardware and software just works, and works well together. Get a Mac and get your life back.
2. You can make amazing stuff.
Every Mac comes with iLife, a suite of software that transforms your photos, music, and video into all kinds of projects. Make high-quality websites, photo books, DVDs, songs, slideshows, music CDs, calendars, cards, prints, podcasts, music videos, documentaries, and more.
3. Everything-ready.
The Mac is the only computer in the world that can run all the major operating systems, including Mac OS X, Windows XP, and Vista. With software like Parallels Desktop or VMware Fusion you can even run them side by side.
4. 114,000 viruses? Not on a Mac.
Mac OS X was designed for high security, so it isn’t plagued by constant attacks from viruses and malware like PCs. Likewise, it isn’t plagued by never-ending security dialog boxes like those in Vista. So you can safely go about your work — or play — without interruption.
5. Still the most advanced OS.
No other operating system, Vista included, offers the rich features and simplicity of Mac OS X. With the new Mac OS X Leopard, the Mac leaps even farther ahead with new features that let you do more with less effort.
6. The latest Intel chips.
Intel Core 2 Duo processors are fast. As in really fast. But unlike any PC powered by Intel, the Mac runs Mac OS X — which is optimized to squeeze every bit of performance out of Intel’s engines.
7. No hunting for drivers.
Just about everything works with Mac — even the stuff you used with your old PC. All you have to do is plug it in. A Mac has USB drivers for printers, external drives, digital cameras, input devices, iPod, and more. It can see Bluetooth cell phones and headsets, as well as FireWire cameras. No rebooting, no hassles.
8. Design that turns heads.
You won’t want to hide your Mac in a corner of the den. You’ll want it front and center in your life. The Apple style shows in every detail, from its sculpted surfaces to its gorgeous Mac OS X graphics.
9. Instant video chats.
Setting up a video chat with the people next door — or across the globe — should be as simple as picking up the phone. On a Mac, you just click an icon to have a four-way video chat in a full-screen window with amazing clarity and special effects.
10. More fun with photos.
On a Mac, you don’t need any extra software to make a photo book. You don’t have to leave your photo software to visit a separate website and wait for forms to load. All you need is a camera and a Mac.
11. Hollywood-style movies.
Connect your DV camera and turn your movies into spectaculars. Add graphics, titles, and sound effects in minutes. Then use your Mac to burn a DVD or post to your website.
12. One-click websites.
How long does it take to post a photo or video to your blog on a PC? On a Mac, you can shoot a picture or a movie with the built-in camera, then post it on the web in a few clicks. Pontificate, preachify, and publish. The hardest part is coming up with something to say.
13. Amazing podcasts.
Want to get your message out to the world? Podcast it. A Mac makes it simple to create professional podcasts, complete with artwork. Add sound effects and jingles, even use the built-in radio engineer to make it perfect. So you can be a talk star in seconds.
14. Rock star tunemaking.
Musicians get all the girls (or guys). And a Mac has the software to turn you into the musician of your dreams. Choose from hundreds of cool riffs and instruments to create your own songs. Get good enough and you could be on iTunes.
15. Awesome out of the box.
Other computers include software, it’s true. But once you start using that software, you find that you’re hobbled in some way or another. Software included with the Mac, on the other hand, is critically acclaimed as best in class.
Stolen.
Come on I tried to offer a balaned view and your giving me adverts
Chantelle
As i say I am more than understanding why people would like to use a Mac, I wouldnt mind one myself.. I quite like them. Atlhough only a mini for me
But I am limited to what I can do..
It just annoys me when I see people write nonsense. Both have thier advantages
and disadvantages
But I am limited to what I can do..
It just annoys me when I see people write nonsense. Both have thier advantages
and disadvantages
Chantelle
Chantelle wrote:Like it or not it gives alot of reasons why the mac is better.
Wow a flyer!!
Come on I tried to offer a balaned view and your giving me adverts
When i get home and have a sit down and a bit of research.
As to be honest, i really don't believe that mac are not suited for business.
In fact, im sitting here behind an iMac, in a room of 10+ people on macs. So im sitting in a business using macs, very, very successfully, and being told they dont work.
I think chan you've stayed to long in an office that uses PC's.
Major companies have deals with microsoft and other pc suppliers for their broadband, computers, and computer repair. And lets be honest here. PC's are fine for business. But at the end of the day, Macs are beter for almost anything other then gaming and "voice mixing" (thanks for that pho... not)
Will post again later in more detail
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Sigma- All Blue
OKay two words, or more
ACTIVE DIRECTORY
CAD
SAN / NAS
WAN
EXCHANGE
Fuck me I have worked along side one of the biggest software corps worldwide and some real long time freelance engineers. They do all sorts even for Macs.
Yet
They are all talking shite as Darko has spoken.
I dont care what reseach you can Google.. I know my job and what I am talking about. Edit: further more youll find sites taht say anuthing you want to pro one thing.. Its the reality where it counts.
Your flyer points say stuff like core duo etc etc.. is that a plus point? can we not get these on other systems.. or burn DVDS? come on
yes Macs have plus points I said that but there are plus points for Linux and Windows.
Just accept it each as its own pros and cons
ACTIVE DIRECTORY
CAD
SAN / NAS
WAN
EXCHANGE
Fuck me I have worked along side one of the biggest software corps worldwide and some real long time freelance engineers. They do all sorts even for Macs.
Yet
They are all talking shite as Darko has spoken.
I dont care what reseach you can Google.. I know my job and what I am talking about. Edit: further more youll find sites taht say anuthing you want to pro one thing.. Its the reality where it counts.
Your flyer points say stuff like core duo etc etc.. is that a plus point? can we not get these on other systems.. or burn DVDS? come on
yes Macs have plus points I said that but there are plus points for Linux and Windows.
Just accept it each as its own pros and cons
Chantelle