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 #155809  by Scrub
 
He's an excellent troll, very intelligent. 8/8. Unfortunately for your server he's going to chase away more players since I peg him as a sadist who can't control himself. I knew I'd get video of him laming again even though he knew I had started recording. He can't help it, that's why he's gotten so good at taunting and manipulating others into making mistakes and looking like the bad guy.

Here in the first video you can see him taunting me and lying about it on the general chat later. This demonstrates that he is capable of lying about things:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quQ-8FscUAk&t

In this video, you can see me stopping playing since a combination of this troll and admin incompetence has started to ruin my experience. Now I just wait for the inevitable next laming and of course I was right. Blatant laming at end of the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSSidKAI5BM&t

You guys can do whatever you want, I'm not coming back to the server anyways. KR Uscari is a great admin. KR Key sucks! I enjoyed playing for most of the week I've played. Now I remember why I don't play MP games. Again, 8/8 trolling m8. Totally outplayed me. I hope one day you actually get punished before you empty the server of it's players!
 #155811  by jawfin
 
That individual has been warned of his behaviour. Due to the evidence provided he has now been banned. To be fair it's harsh to complain about the admins when you didn't report the offenders via amsay, but there it is. Whether you choose to play again on KR or not is your choice, we don't dictate that, we just do our best to make the server fun - if that is not enough for you so be it.
 #155820  by Scrub
 
Jawfin wrote:didn't report the offenders via amsay, but there it is. Whether you choose to play again on KR or not is your choice, we don't dictate that, we just do our best to make the server fun - if that is not enough for you so be it.
Since you're now interested in what happened before I started recording, I will tell you. First off, thanks for taking decisive action.

It originally began by me spotting Shrub Lee laming some other players, which I then reported on /amsay. If you have logs, it should be there. No response from admin. 1 minute later, Shrub Lee lames me with melee and I start talking about it on general. I eventually state "There must not be an admin". Then KR Key speaks up and says "I have to see it.". After which Shrub Lee kicks into troll mode spamming me to duel him since I spoke publicly about his laming. Now the admin was watching us duel and Shrub Lee started talking to admin during it and I accidentally slashed him while chat bubble was up. After that I suicided to end duel and got my recording software going since I could tell I'd need it.

He really was the first issue I'd come across in a week of playing. I may reconsider and come back eventually. Until then I'm going to stick with playing some other stuff.

Thanks for your time.
 #155822  by aSittingSith
 
I am the subject of this complaint. Let me put on record the following:

1. You posted 10 minutes of footage. From that footage, you said the following to me in private chat:
"fuck you"
"kiss my ass faggot"
"you're a piece of shit"

Kindly note that not once did I use any vulgarity or curse word on you. Your behaviour and spiteful words are flagrant breaches of the very same KR rules that your post intended to uphold.

2. Your post defamed KR Key, as you did repeatedly on the server when he was there. He spent a good deal of time on spec due to your complaints, and in the end he found that YOU lamed me and warned you about laming. This happened in the duel that we fought were you lamed me twice, once by flip kicking and then by sabering me when I was typing to Key. You did not deny laming, you simply kept complaining about how Key wasn't a good admin while he had just seen you lame on spec.

3. The irony of it all is that in 10 minutes of footage, all you have to show is one time you were killed while I was grappling from behind you into the FFA that was going on in front of you. Thats it. 1 time you were killed, during the last 2 seconds of your 10 minute footage. Let me remind you that in the same period you:
1) Swore at me thrice (as shown in the video)
2) Lamed me twice (once with grapple, once saber, both in the duel while being spectated by Key)
3) And continuously flamed Key, who is a council member
That you are relying on one inadvertent kill despite doing ALL THESE THINGS is laughable.

4. You are truly fortunate that I do not have a good reputation. If Jawfin were to judge this situation objectively based PURELY on this incident, I can safely say that anyone reasonable would say you behaved like a total idiot the entire time.

5. The irony is that this all started because, as you say, I killed you when you had melee. That is not a lame. You clearly don't know the rules, since as you say, you're pretty much new to the game. When KR Key saw you retaliate by flaming and laming, he tried to tell you to put melee off if you dont want to be killed. But you instead flamed him.

I frankly cannot comprehend how I have been banned on the basis of that footage when you can clearly see him flaming me, and he has already flamed Key. I am sure Key can attest that he did not see me lame Scrub in the duel, and conversely saw Scrub lame me. The chat logs should evidence this. In any case, this is really all I have to say.

Also, I don't think you dangling carrots in regards your potentially coming back to frequent KR should be a factor. Yes, the game is dying, but frankly you are the troll in this situation and your custom doesn't dictate's KR's future. They survived a decade without me and you and will continue to do so.
 #155823  by Key
 
Sorry Scrub, we get dozens of trolls rolling through our server on a weekly basis. I'm unable to monitor server chat for every second during the period i'm connected to the server, hence trolls tend to cry wolf quite frequently, hence "I must see it" (and this goes for every admin). Due to the nature of those who appear on our server, I am very weary of the people forming both sides of this argument.

With that said I'm not defending either of you because one of you has an undeniable history and the other is a scrub with their own guilty shadow.

Shrub, unfortunately he has hardcore evidence of you laming him which is indisputable. On top of your previous associations with our community, I'm not surprised you're standing where you are.

Scrub, I've never had a heckler before so I'd like for you to have one of my signed autographs. In other words, congratulations you're the first person to tell me I'm a badmin and I'm thrilled. Whether or not you come back to the server is up to you, if you decide to let a troll get the best of you then that's your problem.
 #155827  by Scrub
 
As far as the things I said to you in private: What else do you say to a lamer that is taunting you, trying to make you angry so you will lame him back and get banned? You made me leave the game, get recording software and come back. I'm a fairly patient man, but not in the face of people who are clearly doing wrong to others and then me on top of it. I'm definitely not perfect with my words in the heat of things. At least I don't do what you do with meticulous intent to harm other's enjoyment of the game.
aSittingSith wrote:
5. The irony is that this all started because, as you say, I killed you when you had melee.
This is a misrepresentation of what I wrote. I said you lamed me WITH melee. In English, that means you were using melee on me. I had saber turned off in my hands standing on the same crate as the first video, far away from the FFA on Korriban. Not surprised you're trying to use word play to twist things around.
aSittingSith wrote: Also, I don't think you dangling carrots in regards your potentially coming back to frequent KR should be a factor.
I hope it isn't a factor. You reminded me why I generally don't play competitive MP much anymore, drama like this. It's a waste of everyone's time. Except for the person who enjoys ruining other people's days, that is.
aSittingSith wrote: They survived a decade without me and you and will continue to do so.
I'd gladly take a perma ban if it meant you were too. I'd consider it a community service. Without you, I think the KR server and JK as a game will go on for just a bit more than with you.
Key wrote:Sorry Scrub, we get dozens of trolls rolling through our server on a weekly basis. I'm unable to monitor server chat for every second during the period i'm connected to the server, hence trolls tend to cry wolf quite frequently, hence "I must see it" (and this goes for every admin). Due to the nature of those who appear on our server, I am very weary of the people forming both sides of this argument.

With that said I'm not defending either of you because one of you has an undeniable history and the other is a scrub with their own guilty shadow.

Shrub, unfortunately he has hardcore evidence of you laming him which is indisputable. On top of your previous associations with our community, I'm not surprised you're standing where you are.

Scrub, I've never had a heckler before so I'd like for you to have one of my signed autographs. In other words, congratulations you're the first person to tell me I'm a badmin and I'm thrilled. Whether or not you come back to the server is up to you, if you decide to let a troll get the best of you then that's your problem.
What you saw happen in that duel is as a result of being outplayed by an admittedly expert troll. The dude really knows how to get at people, as you probably saw in the video multiple times.

I apologize for calling you out as a badmin. I really only have seen you during what is probably the most complicated laming scenario possible. I do hope you'll forgive me if I always have shadowplay on if I come back to play though. This event has taught me many lessons. Never engage a troll after the first sighting, they could actually be smart like this one was. I actually wonder how long he's been doing it...
 #155828  by aSittingSith
 
What you saw happen in that duel is as a result of being outplayed by an admittedly expert troll. The dude really knows how to get at people, as you probably saw in the video multiple times.
Now let's compare that concession of your laming to what you said in your last post..

"Now the admin was watching us duel and Shrub Lee started talking to admin during it and I accidentally slashed him while chat bubble was up. "

At least it didnt take me a 5 minute video to prove you are a liar through and through.
 #155829  by Scrub
 
aSittingSith wrote:
What you saw happen in that duel is as a result of being outplayed by an admittedly expert troll. The dude really knows how to get at people, as you probably saw in the video multiple times.
Now let's compare that concession of your laming to what you said in your last post..

"Now the admin was watching us duel and Shrub Lee started talking to admin during it and I accidentally slashed him while chat bubble was up. "

At least it didnt take me a 5 minute video to prove you are a liar through and through.
The two statements are not mutually exclusive. As a result of me indulging a troll in dueling, you were able to make a happy accident occur (for you it was happy anyways. I honestly wonder if you didn't plan it.). One I wouldn't have made if I hadn't dueled you due to being flustered by your taunting.

You'll notice I ceased making that mistake and waited for your nature to inevitably show itself once again.
 #155830  by aSittingSith
 
The two statements are not mutually exclusive. As a result of me indulging a troll in dueling, you were able to make a happy accident occur (for you it was happy anyways. I honestly wonder if you didn't plan it.). One I wouldn't have made if I hadn't dueled you due to being flustered by your taunting.
Read devoid of your semantics, and on any reasonably objective reading, they indeed are mutually exclusive. Had you accidentally slashed me once while I was chatting, you could then call it an 'accident'. However, the reason you felt you had to cover up what happened in that duel, which Key witnessed, was because you know you charged at me an slashed at me 3 to 4 times while I attempted to avoid dying so we could finish the duel. You are truly as twisted as they come. The irony is that you are the master plotter here.
 #155831  by aSittingSith
 
aSittingSith wrote:
The two statements are not mutually exclusive. As a result of me indulging a troll in dueling, you were able to make a happy accident occur (for you it was happy anyways. I honestly wonder if you didn't plan it.). One I wouldn't have made if I hadn't dueled you due to being flustered by your taunting.
Read devoid of your semantics, and on any reasonably objective reading, they indeed are mutually exclusive. Had you slashed me once while I was chatting, you could then call it an 'accident'. However, the reason you felt you had to cover up what happened in that duel, which Key witnessed, was because you know you charged at me an slashed at me 3 to 4 times while I attempted to move away to avoid dying so we could finish the duel. The entire reason you felt the need to explain your actions during the duel by stating that you behaved that way because I got to you, suggests that you are ashamed of how you behaved. An innocent mistake would not require such elaboration. You are truly as twisted as they come. The irony is that you are the master plotter here.
 #155832  by Scrub
 
aSittingSith wrote:
The two statements are not mutually exclusive. As a result of me indulging a troll in dueling, you were able to make a happy accident occur (for you it was happy anyways. I honestly wonder if you didn't plan it.). One I wouldn't have made if I hadn't dueled you due to being flustered by your taunting.
Read devoid of your semantics, and on any reasonably objective reading, they indeed are mutually exclusive. Had you accidentally slashed me once while I was chatting, you could then call it an 'accident'. However, the reason you felt you had to cover up what happened in that duel, which Key witnessed, was because you know you charged at me an slashed at me 3 to 4 times while I attempted to avoid dying so we could finish the duel. You are truly as twisted as they come. The irony is that you are the master plotter here.
It was a two hit yellow slash, I didn't even finish a full newb fan combo because I saw the chat bubble come back up. I then suicided since I made a mistake in engaging you to begin with. You can say what you like about me, I know your game now. I didn't make you lame me in the second video and nothing you say can change that. That was your mistake and hopefully the last you'll be making in my presence.

Now unless I'm needed further by any KR members for this discussion, I think I'm done talking to this lamer.
 #155833  by aSittingSith
 
It was a two hit yellow slash, I didn't even finish a full newb fan combo because I saw the chat bubble come back up. I then suicided since I made a mistake in engaging you to begin with. You can say what you like about me, I know your game now. I didn't make you lame me in the second video and nothing you say can change that. That was your mistake and hopefully the last you'll be making in my presence.

Now unless I'm needed further by any KR members for this discussion, I think I'm done talking to this lamer.
Since you're aching for some closure - I will summarise. This is what you claim:
1. I killed you one time. I have said this was inadvertent but you claim otherwise.

This is what I claim:
1. You lamed me in a duel. You claim that it was inadvertent but I claim otherwise.
2. That you used vulgarities against me multiple times. 3 of which feature in your own video.
3. That you flamed Key in public chat.

Now I really would appreciate it if you stopped the whole 'aggrieved party' act of yours. You've carefully concocted so many lies and taken the time to make a 10 minute video, and yet with every response you pretend as though you are being held up here against your will and never want to come back.
 #155834  by Key
 
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I think a fair amount of blows have been exchanged, so it's time to shutdown. As of right now, the evidence sits on the table. We know who said what via the logs, any further outcomes will be strictly personal to the individuals in question.

Council can still post on locked threads, so if Jaw has anything else to add here he'll do so!