[Frog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBMkrXG8KMY

( This contains excessive swearing - you've been warned. )
I don't normally watch Markiplier, but I do respect the man. He posted a video about respect. I thought to share it with you guys because it's a very powerful and very true message.

Enjoy

[Buffy's Shadow]

Been watching Mark since I was in high-school. He's an extremely nice guy, and while I don't agree with either side on what's been going down with the PewDewPie situation, I still feel that there's no need for both sides to be basically ignorant to one another.

[Pantsu]

I agree with him for standing up for PewDiePie when the press basically lied through their teeth about him on purpose. But the speech started bordering on moral posturing before long. There are certain words and phrases in the art of public speaking that are inserted at the right moment in order to evoke a positive emotional response in the audience. "I don't care what skin color you are" or "Treat people as equals" are one-size-fits-all phrases in any discussion in which you want to appear to have the moral high ground. It's a way to subconsciously convince the audience of a false dichotomy, that being that you stand for equality while the other guy doesn't and is therefor evil.

Watch out for this manipulation tactic. Every public personality who knows his/her stuff uses it all the time, from politicians to celebrities.

[Frog]

You're right, Pantsu. But, respectfully, I don't think in this context. Markiplier is not known to be a politically savvy person, and I do not believe he is capable of that. Add that to how much people have been disrespecting his friend, Pewdiepie, and you can tell just how deadly serious he was.

Respect is rooted in understanding.. If we lack that ability, then we lack any hope of intelligent decisions.

[John]

I think the problem here is the definition of respect and how it's trying to be turned into some universal constant. It can be lost and it can be earned but the idea that I'm entitled to be respected by everyone else no matter what I declare to believe, just because I'm a person? Lol, no. I don't know all of what happened but from what I gathered the pewdiepie guy made some bad choices and is catching flack for it. This isn't new, he isn't being singled out by the media. It's what happens to every notable person who makes a bad choice. It's what the media lives off of and it's always been this way.

[Uscari]

To me, there are two dimensions of respect. One is admiration, which can shift depending on your actions and display of character. The other is status, or the perceived sense of worth that is attributed to a person or group of people.

I think it's fair for people to lose respect in terms of admiration for PewDiePie if they feel he has been irresponsible/insensitive with his humor, but to place him in a box with the worst kind of people by cherry picking his material, is an infringement of his "status" respect that is entirely inappropriate. As human beings, part of what establishes our agreed upon sense of equality is our rights. One of those rights is a fair trial, and I think some media outlets are attempting to strip Felix(PewDiePie) of that.

So I agree with Markiplier that PewDiePie has been treated with unfair disrespect, and appreciate that being mentioned in this bizarre battle between YouTube personalities and the media.

I've watched some of PewDiePie's videos, and I don't get any vibe that he is anti-semetic, and I think people need to remember that these are just jokes, and don't represent a person's actual sense of respect for the group he is joking about. I know it sounds funny coming from a KR admin, but as a society, I think we need to chill out and stop trying to censor everything that offends us.

[Frog]

I think the definition of respect is relatively simple. It should be afforded to everybody simply because we have no idea what their life is like. Even if they seemingly don't deserve it. We're very fallible as humans, and the first step to acknowledging that is understanding that we are all equal, I think.

[Pantsu]

Markiplier is not known to be a politically savvy person, and I do not believe he is capable of that.

He's a famous YouTube personality though and so far he has been savvy at speaking in front of a large audience and playing his cards exactly right.

There's so much work that goes into being a successful entertainer that most people don't know about. You have to know how to tug at heartstrings, how to make people laugh, even how to make people outraged at the same thing you're outraged at. It's dependent on more than simple charisma or likability. Much of it is a science unto itself, from the script-writing aspect to the presentation.

And I'm not saying that he is some kind of malevolent and manipulative genius or that he's trying to make the other side look bad. It's just business as usual when mighty juggernauts of fame try to make a case for something. They know that their most powerful weapon is their audience's sympathy.

When you know the ins and outs of how that's usually done, it's actually quite interesting to observe it being done, in a way. And not in the mean-spirited "haha, he's tricking those suckers" sort of way. You just admire the skill and finesse involved in the process.

[Buffy's Shadow]

I've watched some of PewDiePie's videos, and I don't get any vibe that he is anti-semetic, and I think people need to remember that these are just jokes, and don't represent a person's actual sense of respect for the group he is joking about. I know it sounds funny coming from a KR admin, but as a society, I think we need to chill out and stop trying to censor everything that offends us.

This. I've said this before, but I've heard far worse stuff come out of Daniel Tosh but I rarely hear anyone complain about him.

[Sam]

I saw the video