Guys i don't know if you've been hearing but donald has won the political vote what are you thoughts?
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Nothing surprises me anymore. I have always been out of touch with politics.
I'm really interested what you guys stateside think about the next 4 years of your lives. Do you think Trump can turn your country upside down in that period?
I think with a Republican President, Republican House, Republican Senate, and soon a Conservative(Republican) Supreme Court, we will have for the first time in decades a completely uni-partisan federal government.
Trump by himself can't do much without the support of his party, because democrats sure won't let him do anything they don't like. He has burnt bridges to rebuild and people to talk to. Having said that, he now has enormous control over the government and will now be able to pass sweeping conservative agendas on a wide range of issues like reproductive rights, immigration, trade, health care, national defense.
With Clinton, most of the Republican congress would have been blocked for another 4 years, and we would have had gridlock. With Trump, we will see a dramatic shift in our country's policy in a direction I personally am fearful of. Will he destroy the US? Of course not. Will he institute policies that revert our country into a state of economic, social, and military stress? I think there is great potential for it.
Good news is our taxes will go WAY down
Trump by himself can't do much without the support of his party, because democrats sure won't let him do anything they don't like. He has burnt bridges to rebuild and people to talk to. Having said that, he now has enormous control over the government and will now be able to pass sweeping conservative agendas on a wide range of issues like reproductive rights, immigration, trade, health care, national defense.
With Clinton, most of the Republican congress would have been blocked for another 4 years, and we would have had gridlock. With Trump, we will see a dramatic shift in our country's policy in a direction I personally am fearful of. Will he destroy the US? Of course not. Will he institute policies that revert our country into a state of economic, social, and military stress? I think there is great potential for it.
Good news is our taxes will go WAY down
That's assuming Trump actually has rep ideas. He ran as a republican sure, but is he actually one?
No to both thread topic and Fluffy's question.
The RaVeN wrote:
Nevermore.
Fine with the results.
I'm still going to work the next day (today), still going to play computer games, and enjoy life.
Not shocked, still a happy U.S. citizen.
I'm still going to work the next day (today), still going to play computer games, and enjoy life.
Not shocked, still a happy U.S. citizen.
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Well, America is now safe from drug and criminal infestation, taxes are lowered, gun rights are still in place, no wars with Russia now, abortion is going to be illegal, the common core math is no longer a factor, gay marriage is no longer allowed, and finally the senate is now made up of mostly Republican members, so for me I am quite happy and joyful, mostly due to the fact that Hiliary Beans is not president.
Did I mention I was a conservative?
Did I mention I was a conservative?
A warning to all: Tread carefully.
If this turns into a hateful debate rather than a peaceful discussion I'm shutting this and any other political threads down.
There are plenty of other places on the internet to express your views and opinions on this and KR is not the place to get violent.
If this turns into a hateful debate rather than a peaceful discussion I'm shutting this and any other political threads down.
There are plenty of other places on the internet to express your views and opinions on this and KR is not the place to get violent.
The RaVeN wrote:
Nevermore.
We're living in a democratic country, and I respect him for winning the votes fair and square. All we have of him for now are just expectations, whether good or bad. While I'm surprised with the result, I truly hope he will live up to the good ones, and he deserves a chance to show us that he can.
Will be interesting to see how the GOP itself handles this. There was a lot of disconnect between top party officials (for instance, speaker of the house Paul Ryan) and Trump. Republicans will control the House, Senate, Presidency, and SCOTUS yes, but that doesn't guarantee it will be smooth sailing
"My life has a superb cast but I can't figure out the plot." - Ashleigh Brilliant
We elected a Nazi who will cater to one religion and damn all others. That's all I'm going to say. I'm ashamed of my country.
When things go downhill, I don't want to hear a single person who voted for him complain. You've made your bed. Lay in it.
In the eight years of Obama, there was never a call to eliminate the ability of people to buy guns. People just decided to flip over background checks that should be in place. In fact, the shortage of ammunition that everyone claimed was a sign of Obama taking them? It was a ploy by the Manufactures' to bring up the price of bullets. They've even admitted to it.
Trump can't do anything about gay-marriage because it was a Supreme Court decision. Those cannot be overuled except by a Constitutional Amendment or another ruling. Don't expect either of those to happen.
So having one party in charge of nearly everything is having a balance? That's what there's supposed to be. A balance between all parties. It's how the Founding Fathers set the system up.
I recognize that your beliefs in this are in part because of your religious beliefs, but consider this. How would you feel if a candidate were elected that was entirely anti-Christian. How would you feel? That's how all of us who aren't Christian feel because of Trump getting in. People have made it clear they don't care about any of us. He has numerous policies that are going to be affected directly by his attempts to please the Christian sect of the country, and I'm sorry, but that's not right whatsoever. Christianity is not the only belief in this country, and having a leader that is going to cater to that part of the population is sickening.
This country was founded on the idea of tolerance. Guess what? If you cater specifically to one religion while condemning a good many others, you're going directly against the ideals upon which the Constitution and Bill of Rights were founded upon. As a Wiccan, I'm just waiting for the day that the White House tells me I'm not allowed to practice my religion because 'I'm not Christian'.
After dealing with eight years of people not respecting Obama, don't expect the rest of us to respect Trump. I would just as soon spit in his face than give him a single ounce of respect.
That's all I have to say about that.
Oh, and for historical reference, the current-day Republican Party is the Democratic Party of the Civil War-era. Same damn thing.
When things go downhill, I don't want to hear a single person who voted for him complain. You've made your bed. Lay in it.
Frog wrote:Well, America is now safe from drug and criminal infestation, taxes are lowered, gun rights are still in place, no wars with Russia now, abortion is going to be illegal, the common core math is no longer a factor, gay marriage is no longer allowed, and finally the senate is now made up of mostly Republican members, so for me I am quite happy and joyful, mostly due to the fact that Hiliary Beans is not president.Drugs and Crime are still gonna be there. Always have, always will.
Did I mention I was a conservative?
In the eight years of Obama, there was never a call to eliminate the ability of people to buy guns. People just decided to flip over background checks that should be in place. In fact, the shortage of ammunition that everyone claimed was a sign of Obama taking them? It was a ploy by the Manufactures' to bring up the price of bullets. They've even admitted to it.
Trump can't do anything about gay-marriage because it was a Supreme Court decision. Those cannot be overuled except by a Constitutional Amendment or another ruling. Don't expect either of those to happen.
So having one party in charge of nearly everything is having a balance? That's what there's supposed to be. A balance between all parties. It's how the Founding Fathers set the system up.
I recognize that your beliefs in this are in part because of your religious beliefs, but consider this. How would you feel if a candidate were elected that was entirely anti-Christian. How would you feel? That's how all of us who aren't Christian feel because of Trump getting in. People have made it clear they don't care about any of us. He has numerous policies that are going to be affected directly by his attempts to please the Christian sect of the country, and I'm sorry, but that's not right whatsoever. Christianity is not the only belief in this country, and having a leader that is going to cater to that part of the population is sickening.
This country was founded on the idea of tolerance. Guess what? If you cater specifically to one religion while condemning a good many others, you're going directly against the ideals upon which the Constitution and Bill of Rights were founded upon. As a Wiccan, I'm just waiting for the day that the White House tells me I'm not allowed to practice my religion because 'I'm not Christian'.
After dealing with eight years of people not respecting Obama, don't expect the rest of us to respect Trump. I would just as soon spit in his face than give him a single ounce of respect.
That's all I have to say about that.
Oh, and for historical reference, the current-day Republican Party is the Democratic Party of the Civil War-era. Same damn thing.
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I'm of a similar mind to Buffy. I'm worried about the future that we're creating for next generations. But honestly, anyone will say anything to win the election, in fact
Admittedly, I haven't checked to see whether the above quote is actually legit, but still
It's hard to say what's going to happen, or if he'll actually do what he said he wants.
I think the best option is for now to hope he does good and just wait and judge with an open mind, because to me anything anyone says before becoming president should be taken with a grain of salt.
Admittedly, I haven't checked to see whether the above quote is actually legit, but still
It's hard to say what's going to happen, or if he'll actually do what he said he wants.
I think the best option is for now to hope he does good and just wait and judge with an open mind, because to me anything anyone says before becoming president should be taken with a grain of salt.
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Thank god its the season finale of the American election is all I can say.
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Super proud of myself for not engaging in frog's reply see Uscari I'm growing as a person.
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For those that need a second option.
Super proud of myself for not engaging in frog's reply see Uscari I'm growing as a person.
I sense the tension is escalating right here.
Yama wrote:Super proud of myself for not engaging in frog's reply see Uscari I'm growing as a person.Yama, do we need this?
Zaluk wrote:It's hard to say what's going to happen, or if he'll actually do what he said he wants.Yep. More like that. Felt the same for Brexit tbh.
I think the best option is for now to hope he does good and just wait and judge with an open mind, because to me anything anyone says before becoming president should be taken with a grain of salt.
In an attempt to extend an olive branch for all of us to grab on to, I think there is one thing we can agree on.
Regardless of how we feel about the candidate who won our election, we are willing to acknowledge the mandate of the people and accept the victory of Donald Trump. The people have deliberated, debated and fought over who would be our president, and have decided to go with Mr. Trump.
I may be very much opposed to his policies, but for the next four years, he is my president and the leader of my country. I will criticize him for his actions, and demand he be transparent with the people who entrusted him with his power, but I will not deny his right to the office. We have had eight years of our President's legitimacy being put into question, and I think this extraordinary result gives us the opportunity to prove that we respect our democracy enough to recognize our commander and chief.
And if Trump is as bad as so many of us think he will be, just wait about two and half years, and you can start looking for candidates to replace him come 2020 ^^
Regardless of how we feel about the candidate who won our election, we are willing to acknowledge the mandate of the people and accept the victory of Donald Trump. The people have deliberated, debated and fought over who would be our president, and have decided to go with Mr. Trump.
I may be very much opposed to his policies, but for the next four years, he is my president and the leader of my country. I will criticize him for his actions, and demand he be transparent with the people who entrusted him with his power, but I will not deny his right to the office. We have had eight years of our President's legitimacy being put into question, and I think this extraordinary result gives us the opportunity to prove that we respect our democracy enough to recognize our commander and chief.
And if Trump is as bad as so many of us think he will be, just wait about two and half years, and you can start looking for candidates to replace him come 2020 ^^
Seems it's time to lock this.
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