)so yea, or if anyone thinks there are better concoles out there than the 360.
In fact what does everyone think of the new PlayStation3 (i mean looks wise unless anyone owns one yet)
sorry this has gone off topic a bit
just out of interest, is the 360 any good, i dont have any game concoles unless you count my computer and gameboy, i have played on friends 360's a little bit but not enough to really like it or not, i've always sucked more or less on my friends ones cuz i just hit random buttons hoping i do some sort of cool combo move (it works sometimes as well )
so yea, or if anyone thinks there are better concoles out there than the 360.
In fact what does everyone think of the new PlayStation3 (i mean looks wise unless anyone owns one yet)
sorry this has gone off topic a bit
)so yea, or if anyone thinks there are better concoles out there than the 360.
In fact what does everyone think of the new PlayStation3 (i mean looks wise unless anyone owns one yet)
sorry this has gone off topic a bit
"It is better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all."- Saint Augustine
saunby wrote: so yea, or if anyone thinks there are better concoles out there than the 360.I think graphically they are tit for tatt, but considering PS3 is a year later , thats not good enough. PS3 has more graphical power but cannot do HDR and FSAA at the same time.. that may not mean alot to you BUT, given the speed games develop it wont be long before the aestetics cannot be done on it.. I THink the Blu Ray has also been an issue for the PS3.. they shoudl have made it modular so that peopel wasn't forced into paying the premium... However XBox 360 you hvae to pay a fee for the online..
In fact what does everyone think of the new PlayStation3 (i mean looks wise unless anyone owns one yet)
By the way.. as for the Wii... well
they are .. alright.. That wont last long... until they bring out a decent game its basically for kids.. and the control style is also something they will port to PC and XBOX and PS3... So I cannot see it lasting too longJust my tuppence.. I think you canot go wrong with either but I think if i were to get one id get XBOX 360... for some reason Oblivion looks bad on the PS3
Chantelle
i have a Wii i can maybe play for like 30mins-1hour but thats all. it does get boring cause its got like no action (unless u get zelda which i do)
i thought they made the Wii for people who never played a game can experience one... older people (like my mom) love it.
My friend also had a Ps3 and it overheated the first day he got it.
I dont have either a Ps3 or a XBox of any kind so i donno what is good.
I'm just sticking to computer and my ps2 for now
~Ru
i thought they made the Wii for people who never played a game can experience one... older people (like my mom) love it.
My friend also had a Ps3 and it overheated the first day he got it.
I dont have either a Ps3 or a XBox of any kind so i donno what is good.
I'm just sticking to computer and my ps2 for now
~Ru
Jawfin wrote:From then on I've kept the yellow out of respect to Tidus.
hey i have a Wii and a friend has a ps3 dude the wii owns i got call of duty 3 it has plenty of action the ps3 kinda sucks cause u cant play it long before it does over heat friend played his for 2 hours and it was rly hot so the wii is fun with Zelda and Call of Duty 3 (which i have...) but they have to make more games for em it just came out for chirstmas most games r still bein made.
i couldnt figure out how to play call of duty on that thing if i needed to save my life....i saw a guy in the nintendo store in Manhatten try for half an hour to get spiderman to web swing in spiderman 3 on the wii. the plus about the wii is the wiisports are really fun, and u can download almost all old nintendo games, plus u get a web browser
all in all, go 360, solid all around console thats been around long enuff to have its flaws fixed and smoothed out. plus they just released a major spring update which is amazing.
(although if i get some money from my summer job and have nothing else to do, i might invest in a PS3, as i am a native sony person ever since PS1, feel bad dropping them)
all in all, go 360, solid all around console thats been around long enuff to have its flaws fixed and smoothed out. plus they just released a major spring update which is amazing.
(although if i get some money from my summer job and have nothing else to do, i might invest in a PS3, as i am a native sony person ever since PS1, feel bad dropping them)
lmao dude call of duty is easy i put it on hard mode lmao im just good at gun games XD
I agree with Chantelle. Console shooters blow for the most part. The only ones I can really tolerate are Gears of War, because it's a third person perspective and the aiming just feels a little more natural for some reason (they probably have a slight auto-aligning script), and any of the tactical shooters like the Tom Clancy series. I'm not really a big fan of Halo, at all. There's really nothing amazing about it, and I could easily find you games on PC that are far more entertaining. The colors are drowned out on Xbox, and it's hard to see anything unless they are standing with light directly behind them, the aiming is very jerky, and it's really just not that much fun. To be honest, a person using either a Wii mote or joystick controller will NEVER be as good as a mouse and keyboard in a shooter. It's plain fact. Futhermore, Counter Strike 1.6, Condition Zero, and Source are far better shooters, in my opinion, and I have a bias because I think they will hold a monopoly for a really long time.
However, this is not to say that I don't like consoles, because I do. I personally bought a 360. For some reason I feel like it's the only one that was released correctly. The Wii has been sold out for months, the PS3 is too expensive and lost almost all of its big names (I think Square just cut their deals with Sony, as well as the Grand Theft Auto series), because the companies don't want to lose customers on behalf of poor marketing by Sony. I haven't played the PS3, so I can't say much about it, other than that PS3's Home and LittleBigPlanet look really really fun. The Wii games aren't bad, but get boring after a while. Shooters still aren't good enough on it to beat out the competition, Zelda can be played on Gamecube for far less without a huge drop in quality, and the Wii sports are kind of a joke after about an hour (I can bowl an almost perfect game backwards or swinging my controller like a sword). I will say that I'm considering a PS3 later, once they fix the problems and drop the price, and it's only for one game alone -- Devil May Cry 4. Oh sweet Jesus, that game is gonna be sick. Okay, I'm done.
Edit: My gamertag is trickeh. I really only play NHL 07 online once 'n a while, though. I have Halo 2, but I won't play it unless it's that one game mode where you can only kill with headshots (the name eludes me right now).
However, this is not to say that I don't like consoles, because I do. I personally bought a 360. For some reason I feel like it's the only one that was released correctly. The Wii has been sold out for months, the PS3 is too expensive and lost almost all of its big names (I think Square just cut their deals with Sony, as well as the Grand Theft Auto series), because the companies don't want to lose customers on behalf of poor marketing by Sony. I haven't played the PS3, so I can't say much about it, other than that PS3's Home and LittleBigPlanet look really really fun. The Wii games aren't bad, but get boring after a while. Shooters still aren't good enough on it to beat out the competition, Zelda can be played on Gamecube for far less without a huge drop in quality, and the Wii sports are kind of a joke after about an hour (I can bowl an almost perfect game backwards or swinging my controller like a sword). I will say that I'm considering a PS3 later, once they fix the problems and drop the price, and it's only for one game alone -- Devil May Cry 4. Oh sweet Jesus, that game is gonna be sick. Okay, I'm done.
Edit: My gamertag is trickeh. I really only play NHL 07 online once 'n a while, though. I have Halo 2, but I won't play it unless it's that one game mode where you can only kill with headshots (the name eludes me right now).
Oh i wasnt trying to say consoles are bad I just dont think they have teh same level of realism or control when it comes to FPSs I just find them frustrating to control and stuff so I find teh mouse like a very natural way to view and even look down and stuff..
other stuff like sports games and especially two player works better on consoles..
I think some PS3 games which have been ported from XBOX to PS3 have been badly done due to the difference in graphics chips.. one example is
Oblivion.. it looks , i dunno it doesnt look right on the PS3 whereas on teh XBOX and PC it was made "natively" it looked like its been butchered to work..
Obvioulsy now PS3 will grow that will likeley fade away.
I was wondering something like the Wii could have easily been a sealed console with just wii sports for your mates RRP about. $100 or £50.
I think the wii has opened a door to the future but as you say the sports can be a bit silly if u niche the timing you can just win everything, I dont think it will be long before this technology is done widely on all the other consoles and thats gonan be hard on teh Wii since graphically and stuff the Wii is like 10 years out of date :-s..
other stuff like sports games and especially two player works better on consoles..
I think some PS3 games which have been ported from XBOX to PS3 have been badly done due to the difference in graphics chips.. one example is
Oblivion.. it looks , i dunno it doesnt look right on the PS3 whereas on teh XBOX and PC it was made "natively" it looked like its been butchered to work..
Obvioulsy now PS3 will grow that will likeley fade away.
I was wondering something like the Wii could have easily been a sealed console with just wii sports for your mates RRP about. $100 or £50.
I think the wii has opened a door to the future but as you say the sports can be a bit silly if u niche the timing you can just win everything, I dont think it will be long before this technology is done widely on all the other consoles and thats gonan be hard on teh Wii since graphically and stuff the Wii is like 10 years out of date :-s..
Chantelle
lol lil random but w/e ps2 will let u use a usb keyboard and mouse to play som of there games for FPS
Tricky wrote: (I think Square just cut their deals with Sony, as well as the Grand Theft Auto series)im almost certain about grand theft auto, cuz theres GTA IV all over the xbox marketplace. and bout square enix, i did hear something that there is a very slight chance that kingdom hearts 3 will be put on 360, in which case i will be thrilled. now only if microsoft could get contracts with Namco and get Ace Combat...
WARNING THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY LONG POST. ONLY READ IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THIS TOPIC OR VIDEO GAMES IN GENERAL!
Since I am trying to be a Game Designer/Game Programmer. I am personally going to talk about the pros and cons of ALL 3 Consoles (and relate them to the PC in a few sentences) and if any of them are OR will be worth your time. As I said up top this is going to be long but this should answer ANY questions you have of any of the 3 consoles. Im going to go in order of release date to be fair.
XBox 360:
Cost: USA $299(core), $399(premium), $479(elite)
Manufacturer: Microsoft
1Generation: Seventh generation era
First available: 22 November 2005
Controller input: 4 maximum (wired or wireless or combination of either)
Online service: Xbox Live (USA 1month$7.99 3month$19.99 12months$49.99)
Units sold Worldwide: 10.4 million sold as of December 31, 2006
Top-selling game: Gears of War (As of now)
Backward compatibility: 336 Xbox games (requires hard drive)
Pros: It was released one year earlier than any other Seventh generation console give it a "head start" effect which guarantees more games readily available by the time the other 2 consoles launch. The Console itself is powerful with is triple core Xenon processor and extreme bandwidth. The graphics really speaks for itself as some games truly look great on the system. It was the first system to feature a "true" online fan base with its introduction of Xbox Live, though it was far from the first. (online play for consoles was thought to happen for the Dreamcast). As for games the console has already had many hit games which have sold over a million copies just in its first year(Gears of War is current top seller with 4 million copies already sold) meaning you can always find a good game on the console to suit your taste. Since the Xbox360 is based from Microsoft creating games for the system is generally a breeze and even has Microsoft XNA with development tools made for game development teams(However it cost $99 to upload created content to the Xbox360). Xbox360 has its Dashboard interface which utilizes tabs to navigate its OS which is fairly easy to understand and use. Xbox Live itself has many features such as its Marketplace and Arcade(one you can buy Game trailers, Game Demos, Dashboard themes, ect. The other lets you play classic and some not so classic games on the console.) Xbox360 has also lately been receiving contracts from game developers that were to be released only for the PS3 which takes away Sony's "exclusiveness" they once had with the PS2
Cons: Xbox360 has had its share of technical problems with its early releases of its console and has had thousands of people complain about its crashing. It even has a "Ring of Death" which is when red lights flash on the front of your console (the more red lights the bigger the problem is) which can rang from simply restarting the after letting it cool to having to send it to Microsoft to get it repaired. Microsoft has even stated that they would fix any system released before 2006 for free (this has been recently stopped however). Also Xbox360 has been prone to actually scratching disc all on its own leaving DVD's and even games completely unusable. Second though the system only cost $299 (core system) the price needed for Xbox Live and Xbox Marketplace can add up to your system costing almost as much as a ps3 though this is solely user based as you dont have to pay for these things.
General Information: Xbox360 has been released with 3 different versions. Xbox360 Core, Xbox360 Premium, and Xbox360 Elite.
The Core only $299 is the basic system which comes bundled with composite video cables, capable of only SDTV resolutions. The Core may output HD signals up to 1080p when connected to separately sold Component or VGA cables. It may also use a separately sold 20, or 120GB hard drive.
The Premium cost $399 The Xbox 360 Premium includes all the features of the Xbox 360 Core and also includes a detachable 20GB Hard Disc Drive (to store Xbox Live Arcade games, game demos, ect.) provide compatibility with Xbox games and store game data. It also includes a Wireless Xbox 360 Controller, Xbox Live headset, Xbox Media Remote (in some regions) and a pre-paid 12 month subscription to Xbox Live Gold.
The Elite cost $479 and has all the features of premium and will have HDMI output and a 120 GB hard drive in a black case, and it includes an HDMI cable, a black game controller, and a black headset. Thought to be "Limited Edition" It will be a mainstay on the Xbox360 line.
Personal Opinion: If you have ever played console games before this system is the top of the line when it comes to conventional consoles. Not trying to innovate it provides basic console gameplay that most already know and love. Besides being wireless the controller is nothing special and features a rumble pack(which became almost standard ever since it became popular with the Nintendo 64 rumble pack and Sony's Dualshock1). Its basically what consoles have been about for years and has a big library of games. If your not willing to break yourself trying to get a PS3 or if you dont want to be flaying around a wii-mote cause your too lazy to do so then this system should be your number one choice. Its a solid console which has had time to be fixed over the years and with games still coming strong its your safest bet on a console.
PlayStation3:
Manufacturer: Foxconn, ASUSTeK for SCEI
Generation: Seventh generation era
First available: 11 November 2006
Controller input: Max. 7 SIXAXIS (wireless, wired, or combination of each)
Online service: PlayStation Network(Free)
Units sold: 3.2 million+
Units shipped: 5.5 million+
Top-selling game: Resistance: Fall of Man(as of now)
Backward compatibility: PlayStation games and PlayStation 2 games
Pros:The Playstation 3 offers amazing graphics due to its cell processor. and has an awesome fool proof interactive OS system. It also allows users to INSTALL there own OS systems (such as Linux) for your own personal touch. You can also do alot of things on your PS3 such as connect memory cards and take data such as music,pictures,game data,ect. and store it on the hard drive. Some games can even be installed directly onto the hard drive(usually taking up around 4 gigs) to help with load times for the game itself. The hard drive itself is even upgradeable as it uses a standard SATA connection. Though with its experimental technology game developers cries for help have been heard by Sony and they have been releasing developing kits and tools needed to help with developing PS3 games. The next kit PlayStation Edge will even have a compiler (which will significantly lower load times). The System is Fully backwards compatible with nearly every game released for the system(though some legacy playstation games are not compatible with there special controllers.) Sony has been doing a fabulous job with updating there software. Though lacking in games the system still has a good line up of games to come(Metal Gear, Lair, God of War 3, ect.) that recently have been slated to only come to the PS3.
Cons: To start off there has been extensive reports of PS3's crashing even after only being used for the first or second time. This is normally caused by overheating which has been a problem with the system. To combat this a number of third party companies have come out with cooling fan peripherals to help with this problem but these also make the system even bigger and harder to place (the system is bigger than the original Xbox). Another downside is its controller itself. Though trying to be "innovative" with its SIXAXIS it feels more or less like a bad copy of the Wii's functionality and the controller has lack of rumble due to Haptics developer Immersion Corporation suing Sony for its patent infringement. It as also removed Force Feed back from its other peripherals such as steering wheels. PlayStation3 Sales have dropped dramatically since its launch and being behind Xbox360 and Wii in sales the head of gaming at Sony has even stepped down and the PlayStation3 Basic system is being discontinued and only the premium will be available to purchase. PS3's lack of FSAA has had some people criticize its graphics though these reports are few as HD TV is whats normally focused on. When it comes to playing media and downloading content the PS3 fall behind in its efforts as being able to play games and download or listen to music on the Xbox360 is seamless. The PS3 normally stops playing your media upon entering a game or you originally not allowed to download information and play games in the background. One of Sony's selling points was its HD features with is Blue-Ray format but the system did not ship with HD cables needed for HD gameplay and had to be bought separately. Communication online via "cell phone style" text messaging was not well received by anyone and generally forced people to buy USB Keyboards. Through its update however they have finally installed a basic keyboard style which though slow is better known and received than its previous style. Sony has reported of even asking users to wait for the on going patches that are being released for the system which is disappointing given they had an extra year to get it right.
General Information: Both Sony and Immersion have ended there patent litigations and have agreed to "explore the inclusion of Immersion technology in PlayStation format products" creating general speculation that the rumble feature may return to Sony's future controllers. Sony originally released 2 versions of its console. PlayStation3 Basic and PlayStation3 Premium. Basic only came with a 20 gig hard drive (though upgradeable). The Premium comes with Wi-Fi built in and flash card readers which the Basic doesnt have. However Basic has been discontinued due to Sony lack of sales. Playstation3 will also be featuring something called "PlayStation Home" Which is said to give you the ability to create your own avatar (assumed to be comparable with the Wii's) and is to feel similar to the online experience of the game Second-Life.
Personal opinion: As of now the system is playing catch up and is trying hard to redeem itself since its launch. I personally feel that possibly in the future with more time the system will improve itself to the point to where is worth the money but as of right now I would NOT recommend anyone buy this system unless you have faith in Sony and its future PS3 exclusive games (which have been on the decline). Generally Xbox360 feels smoother than PS3 and with a cheaper price and simple rumble functionality I would recommend someone get a 360 before a PS3 anytime. There is a possibility however that this may change in the future thanks to PlayStation3 Trying to adhere to fans with constant upgrades in software and potential upgrade in its controller. Also as developers become more familiar with the system the more good games that will be released for the system will become available.
Nintendo Wii:
Cost: $249
Manufacturer: Nintendo
Generation: Seventh generation era
First available: 19 November 2006 (details)
Controller input: Wii Remote
Connectivity Wi-Fi
Bluetooth
USB 2.0 x2
LAN Adapter (via USB)
Online service: (online services Free until end of June. After June a cost of 500 Wii-Points will be required)Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection
WiiConnect24
Virtual Console
Wii Channels
Units sold 6.80 million+
Top-selling game: Wii Sports (packed-in box, except for Japan)
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (As of Now)
Backward compatibility: Nintendo GameCube (Virtual Console)
Pros:*this was taken from my first impressions of the system* The Nintendo Wii offers a brand new intevative control with its new controller and fuctionality. Though the system is not even complete with its software upgrades (as in some of the wii "channels" arent up yet) It STILL has alot you can do with it right out of the box. Connection to the Internet with Wi-Fi was seemless and gives you access to the virtual console. This means you can download old NES,SNES,N64,SEGA, and TurboFX games. This is amazing to actually play Mario64, Sonic the Hedgehog, and The legend of Zelda all on the same system. The system also allows for pictures and even picture slideshows complete with your own music off of any SD card.*end of first impression* As of now the system has released multiple channels available some I find a great addition to the system and others I find are simply not needed. I surprisingly love its weather channel and the full version if its internet though still feels abit sluggish is still nice since its a full web browser. The Controller is comfortable and is simple yet still fun to use. It can but used for extremely simple games that nearly any person can pick up and play such as games like Wii-Sports and the older virtual console games. Or you can attach the nunchuk Attachment and play games that are very complicated yet still feel completely fun to play, such as the Legend of Zelda(Best game ive played in a LONG time!) and DragonBall Z(Which has you perform different energy moves with the Wii-mote. You pull both your arms back and push it forward to throw KameHameHa waves for example.) The gameplay makes you feel like your really in the game. Wii sales have been astounding as its already sold 6.8 million copy's bringing it well on its way to passing Xbox360 even with its 1 year head start. Its backward compatible with the gamecube is nice with ports specifically made for the gamecube controller. The drive itself can play Wii and Gamcube games with ease. The Wii offers Wii Channels for its OS for easy point and shoot style of operations.
Cons: The wii has had reports of its own technical problems though still fewer than its competition. One is its wrist strap which has been known to break through regular gameplay. Nintendo has offered to give replacements if your controller has been broken due to this. Nintendo Wii has also been reported to have its GPU overheat in its standby mode causing possible damage to the GPU itself creating distorted pixels.
Nintendo is currently being sued by 3 other companies due to patent-infringement which can mean big trouble for Nintendo in the future. Nintendo biggest possible downfall is its reliance on few hit games to keep the system going. Games that have not been created for the Wii specifically tend to lack quality in gameplay and many multi-platforming games tend to get worse reviews when ported to the Wii(not always the case however as DragonBallZ was more well received on the Wii than other systems). A few games are still coming out to keep Wii afloat but relative lack of future games becomes apparent compared to Xbox360 and PlayStation3 lineups. This has even caused people to purchase games only made specifically for the Wii-mote and has hindered sales of a number of games. There has been a recent shortage of Wii consoles available due to there high sales. Nintendo did stay true to there claim of having around 2 million units ready for launch in USA, Europe, and Japan but Nintendo did not expect the system to be such a great sales success at launch hence causing a noticeable shortage. People have been reported through continues gameplay to become physically tired and for people who dont generally like physical activity some games WILL challenge you physically shying you away from the system.
General Information: Nintendo has always stated that they are trying to target a wider demographic with its console than that of others in the seventh generation. "We're not thinking about fighting Sony, but about how many people we can get to play games. The thing we're thinking about most is not portable systems, consoles, and so-forth, but that we want to get new people playing games." This has caused some to view games on Wii as simply childish or overly simple in some cases. This however is only matter of opinion as such games as Manhunt 2, The Godfather, and Call of Duty 3 have or are going to be released for the system and are without a doubt slated for adult audiences among other games.
Personal opinion: The console is a very innovative console and its low cost and high sales generally speak for themselves. The system has had a few hits and a few miss games and this trend seems to be continuing into the next year. With future productions of Wii games specifically designed for the Wii-mote it is slated to be a strong competitor in the console wars. Generally also if you have never played games before or used to play very early consoles but have since stopped. This is the console for you(My mom and dad play it and they havent played games in years). If your getting tired of the conventional controller of consoles then this console is also for you.
*K updated and done. This post is based mainly on facts brought by many source sites and my very own personal experience (being that I own all 3 systems now)* Feel free to give your own opinion on the subject matter as you wish. Thanks for reading*
Since I am trying to be a Game Designer/Game Programmer. I am personally going to talk about the pros and cons of ALL 3 Consoles (and relate them to the PC in a few sentences) and if any of them are OR will be worth your time. As I said up top this is going to be long but this should answer ANY questions you have of any of the 3 consoles. Im going to go in order of release date to be fair.
XBox 360:
Cost: USA $299(core), $399(premium), $479(elite)
Manufacturer: Microsoft
1Generation: Seventh generation era
First available: 22 November 2005
Controller input: 4 maximum (wired or wireless or combination of either)
Online service: Xbox Live (USA 1month$7.99 3month$19.99 12months$49.99)
Units sold Worldwide: 10.4 million sold as of December 31, 2006
Top-selling game: Gears of War (As of now)
Backward compatibility: 336 Xbox games (requires hard drive)
Pros: It was released one year earlier than any other Seventh generation console give it a "head start" effect which guarantees more games readily available by the time the other 2 consoles launch. The Console itself is powerful with is triple core Xenon processor and extreme bandwidth. The graphics really speaks for itself as some games truly look great on the system. It was the first system to feature a "true" online fan base with its introduction of Xbox Live, though it was far from the first. (online play for consoles was thought to happen for the Dreamcast
). As for games the console has already had many hit games which have sold over a million copies just in its first year(Gears of War is current top seller with 4 million copies already sold) meaning you can always find a good game on the console to suit your taste. Since the Xbox360 is based from Microsoft creating games for the system is generally a breeze and even has Microsoft XNA with development tools made for game development teams(However it cost $99 to upload created content to the Xbox360). Xbox360 has its Dashboard interface which utilizes tabs to navigate its OS which is fairly easy to understand and use. Xbox Live itself has many features such as its Marketplace and Arcade(one you can buy Game trailers, Game Demos, Dashboard themes, ect. The other lets you play classic and some not so classic games on the console.) Xbox360 has also lately been receiving contracts from game developers that were to be released only for the PS3 which takes away Sony's "exclusiveness" they once had with the PS2Cons: Xbox360 has had its share of technical problems with its early releases of its console and has had thousands of people complain about its crashing. It even has a "Ring of Death" which is when red lights flash on the front of your console (the more red lights the bigger the problem is) which can rang from simply restarting the after letting it cool to having to send it to Microsoft to get it repaired. Microsoft has even stated that they would fix any system released before 2006 for free (this has been recently stopped however). Also Xbox360 has been prone to actually scratching disc all on its own leaving DVD's and even games completely unusable. Second though the system only cost $299 (core system) the price needed for Xbox Live and Xbox Marketplace can add up to your system costing almost as much as a ps3 though this is solely user based as you dont have to pay for these things.
General Information: Xbox360 has been released with 3 different versions. Xbox360 Core, Xbox360 Premium, and Xbox360 Elite.
The Core only $299 is the basic system which comes bundled with composite video cables, capable of only SDTV resolutions. The Core may output HD signals up to 1080p when connected to separately sold Component or VGA cables. It may also use a separately sold 20, or 120GB hard drive.
The Premium cost $399 The Xbox 360 Premium includes all the features of the Xbox 360 Core and also includes a detachable 20GB Hard Disc Drive (to store Xbox Live Arcade games, game demos, ect.) provide compatibility with Xbox games and store game data. It also includes a Wireless Xbox 360 Controller, Xbox Live headset, Xbox Media Remote (in some regions) and a pre-paid 12 month subscription to Xbox Live Gold.
The Elite cost $479 and has all the features of premium and will have HDMI output and a 120 GB hard drive in a black case, and it includes an HDMI cable, a black game controller, and a black headset. Thought to be "Limited Edition" It will be a mainstay on the Xbox360 line.
Personal Opinion: If you have ever played console games before this system is the top of the line when it comes to conventional consoles. Not trying to innovate it provides basic console gameplay that most already know and love. Besides being wireless the controller is nothing special and features a rumble pack(which became almost standard ever since it became popular with the Nintendo 64 rumble pack and Sony's Dualshock1). Its basically what consoles have been about for years and has a big library of games. If your not willing to break yourself trying to get a PS3 or if you dont want to be flaying around a wii-mote cause your too lazy to do so
then this system should be your number one choice. Its a solid console which has had time to be fixed over the years and with games still coming strong its your safest bet on a console.PlayStation3:
Manufacturer: Foxconn, ASUSTeK for SCEI
Generation: Seventh generation era
First available: 11 November 2006
Controller input: Max. 7 SIXAXIS (wireless, wired, or combination of each)
Online service: PlayStation Network(Free)
Units sold: 3.2 million+
Units shipped: 5.5 million+
Top-selling game: Resistance: Fall of Man(as of now)
Backward compatibility: PlayStation games and PlayStation 2 games
Pros:The Playstation 3 offers amazing graphics due to its cell processor. and has an awesome fool proof interactive OS system. It also allows users to INSTALL there own OS systems (such as Linux) for your own personal touch. You can also do alot of things on your PS3 such as connect memory cards and take data such as music,pictures,game data,ect. and store it on the hard drive. Some games can even be installed directly onto the hard drive(usually taking up around 4 gigs) to help with load times for the game itself. The hard drive itself is even upgradeable as it uses a standard SATA connection. Though with its experimental technology game developers cries for help have been heard by Sony and they have been releasing developing kits and tools needed to help with developing PS3 games. The next kit PlayStation Edge will even have a compiler (which will significantly lower load times). The System is Fully backwards compatible with nearly every game released for the system(though some legacy playstation games are not compatible with there special controllers.) Sony has been doing a fabulous job with updating there software. Though lacking in games the system still has a good line up of games to come(Metal Gear, Lair, God of War 3, ect.) that recently have been slated to only come to the PS3.
Cons: To start off there has been extensive reports of PS3's crashing even after only being used for the first or second time. This is normally caused by overheating which has been a problem with the system. To combat this a number of third party companies have come out with cooling fan peripherals to help with this problem but these also make the system even bigger and harder to place (the system is bigger than the original Xbox). Another downside is its controller itself. Though trying to be "innovative" with its SIXAXIS it feels more or less like a bad copy of the Wii's functionality and the controller has lack of rumble due to Haptics developer Immersion Corporation suing Sony for its patent infringement. It as also removed Force Feed back from its other peripherals such as steering wheels. PlayStation3 Sales have dropped dramatically since its launch and being behind Xbox360 and Wii in sales the head of gaming at Sony has even stepped down and the PlayStation3 Basic system is being discontinued and only the premium will be available to purchase. PS3's lack of FSAA has had some people criticize its graphics though these reports are few as HD TV is whats normally focused on. When it comes to playing media and downloading content the PS3 fall behind in its efforts as being able to play games and download or listen to music on the Xbox360 is seamless. The PS3 normally stops playing your media upon entering a game or you originally not allowed to download information and play games in the background. One of Sony's selling points was its HD features with is Blue-Ray format but the system did not ship with HD cables needed for HD gameplay and had to be bought separately. Communication online via "cell phone style" text messaging was not well received by anyone and generally forced people to buy USB Keyboards. Through its update however they have finally installed a basic keyboard style which though slow is better known and received than its previous style. Sony has reported of even asking users to wait for the on going patches that are being released for the system which is disappointing given they had an extra year to get it right.
General Information: Both Sony and Immersion have ended there patent litigations and have agreed to "explore the inclusion of Immersion technology in PlayStation format products" creating general speculation that the rumble feature may return to Sony's future controllers. Sony originally released 2 versions of its console. PlayStation3 Basic and PlayStation3 Premium. Basic only came with a 20 gig hard drive (though upgradeable). The Premium comes with Wi-Fi built in and flash card readers which the Basic doesnt have. However Basic has been discontinued due to Sony lack of sales. Playstation3 will also be featuring something called "PlayStation Home" Which is said to give you the ability to create your own avatar (assumed to be comparable with the Wii's) and is to feel similar to the online experience of the game Second-Life.
Personal opinion: As of now the system is playing catch up and is trying hard to redeem itself since its launch. I personally feel that possibly in the future with more time the system will improve itself to the point to where is worth the money but as of right now I would NOT recommend anyone buy this system unless you have faith in Sony and its future PS3 exclusive games (which have been on the decline). Generally Xbox360 feels smoother than PS3 and with a cheaper price and simple rumble functionality I would recommend someone get a 360 before a PS3 anytime. There is a possibility however that this may change in the future thanks to PlayStation3 Trying to adhere to fans with constant upgrades in software and potential upgrade in its controller. Also as developers become more familiar with the system the more good games that will be released for the system will become available.
Nintendo Wii:
Cost: $249
Manufacturer: Nintendo
Generation: Seventh generation era
First available: 19 November 2006 (details)
Controller input: Wii Remote
Connectivity Wi-Fi
Bluetooth
USB 2.0 x2
LAN Adapter (via USB)
Online service: (online services Free until end of June. After June a cost of 500 Wii-Points will be required)Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection
WiiConnect24
Virtual Console
Wii Channels
Units sold 6.80 million+
Top-selling game: Wii Sports (packed-in box, except for Japan)
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (As of Now)
Backward compatibility: Nintendo GameCube (Virtual Console)
Pros:*this was taken from my first impressions of the system* The Nintendo Wii offers a brand new intevative control with its new controller and fuctionality. Though the system is not even complete with its software upgrades (as in some of the wii "channels" arent up yet) It STILL has alot you can do with it right out of the box. Connection to the Internet with Wi-Fi was seemless and gives you access to the virtual console. This means you can download old NES,SNES,N64,SEGA, and TurboFX games. This is amazing to actually play Mario64, Sonic the Hedgehog, and The legend of Zelda all on the same system. The system also allows for pictures and even picture slideshows complete with your own music off of any SD card.*end of first impression* As of now the system has released multiple channels available some I find a great addition to the system and others I find are simply not needed. I surprisingly love its weather channel and the full version if its internet though still feels abit sluggish is still nice since its a full web browser. The Controller is comfortable and is simple yet still fun to use. It can but used for extremely simple games that nearly any person can pick up and play such as games like Wii-Sports and the older virtual console games. Or you can attach the nunchuk Attachment and play games that are very complicated yet still feel completely fun to play, such as the Legend of Zelda(Best game ive played in a LONG time!) and DragonBall Z(Which has you perform different energy moves with the Wii-mote. You pull both your arms back and push it forward to throw KameHameHa waves for example.) The gameplay makes you feel like your really in the game. Wii sales have been astounding as its already sold 6.8 million copy's bringing it well on its way to passing Xbox360 even with its 1 year head start. Its backward compatible with the gamecube is nice with ports specifically made for the gamecube controller. The drive itself can play Wii and Gamcube games with ease. The Wii offers Wii Channels for its OS for easy point and shoot style of operations.
Cons: The wii has had reports of its own technical problems though still fewer than its competition. One is its wrist strap which has been known to break through regular gameplay. Nintendo has offered to give replacements if your controller has been broken due to this. Nintendo Wii has also been reported to have its GPU overheat in its standby mode causing possible damage to the GPU itself creating distorted pixels.
Nintendo is currently being sued by 3 other companies due to patent-infringement which can mean big trouble for Nintendo in the future. Nintendo biggest possible downfall is its reliance on few hit games to keep the system going. Games that have not been created for the Wii specifically tend to lack quality in gameplay and many multi-platforming games tend to get worse reviews when ported to the Wii(not always the case however as DragonBallZ was more well received on the Wii than other systems). A few games are still coming out to keep Wii afloat but relative lack of future games becomes apparent compared to Xbox360 and PlayStation3 lineups. This has even caused people to purchase games only made specifically for the Wii-mote and has hindered sales of a number of games. There has been a recent shortage of Wii consoles available due to there high sales. Nintendo did stay true to there claim of having around 2 million units ready for launch in USA, Europe, and Japan but Nintendo did not expect the system to be such a great sales success at launch hence causing a noticeable shortage. People have been reported through continues gameplay to become physically tired and for people who dont generally like physical activity some games WILL challenge you physically shying you away from the system.
General Information: Nintendo has always stated that they are trying to target a wider demographic with its console than that of others in the seventh generation. "We're not thinking about fighting Sony, but about how many people we can get to play games. The thing we're thinking about most is not portable systems, consoles, and so-forth, but that we want to get new people playing games." This has caused some to view games on Wii as simply childish or overly simple in some cases. This however is only matter of opinion as such games as Manhunt 2, The Godfather, and Call of Duty 3 have or are going to be released for the system and are without a doubt slated for adult audiences among other games.
Personal opinion: The console is a very innovative console and its low cost and high sales generally speak for themselves. The system has had a few hits and a few miss games and this trend seems to be continuing into the next year. With future productions of Wii games specifically designed for the Wii-mote it is slated to be a strong competitor in the console wars. Generally also if you have never played games before or used to play very early consoles but have since stopped. This is the console for you(My mom and dad play it and they havent played games in years). If your getting tired of the conventional controller of consoles then this console is also for you.
*K updated and done. This post is based mainly on facts brought by many source sites and my very own personal experience (being that I own all 3 systems now)* Feel free to give your own opinion on the subject matter as you wish. Thanks for reading
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PS3 amazing graphics. Hmm I am not convinced
Its graphics are... powerful in clock speed but... they are 1 year dated and lacking in features
a cell processor I dont see how that effects the graphics card? That sounds like sales talk.
No FSAA &
HDR at simultaneous
For a machine 1 year after xbox 360
Thats poor showing.
I mean if you want the HD rendering and had to put up with jaggies . Xbox doesnt have as much muscle but may be able to put out a better graphics. 1 year on from Xbox 360 and for the price they are selling it, ud have expected better.
through prestiege however I think that the PS3 will do okay.
At the end of the day its the games what will make it...
I mean you could spend £175 or $300 on a card for your PC and wipe them both off for graphics and power capablility but if they dont have the games you want or the functionality you want...
And they have cut the spec down for Europe and Australia for backward compatability..
I think they should have removed the blu ray and put an 8800 Nvidia range in....
probably a cheaper console but much better for games..
that would have blown 360 out of the water..
Its graphics are... powerful in clock speed but... they are 1 year dated and lacking in features
a cell processor I dont see how that effects the graphics card? That sounds like sales talk.
No FSAA &
HDR at simultaneous
For a machine 1 year after xbox 360
Thats poor showing.
I mean if you want the HD rendering and had to put up with jaggies . Xbox doesnt have as much muscle but may be able to put out a better graphics. 1 year on from Xbox 360 and for the price they are selling it, ud have expected better.
through prestiege however I think that the PS3 will do okay.
At the end of the day its the games what will make it...
I mean you could spend £175 or $300 on a card for your PC and wipe them both off for graphics and power capablility but if they dont have the games you want or the functionality you want...
And they have cut the spec down for Europe and Australia for backward compatability..
I think they should have removed the blu ray and put an 8800 Nvidia range in....
probably a cheaper console but much better for games..
that would have blown 360 out of the water..
Chantelle
Personally, I thought they gussied up lair with a little too much blur and bloom. Everything seems drowned out. I suppose people like that, too. Gears did it too, but in my opinion, the gameplay makes up for it. I'd actually take less-realistic graphics if it's done in an artistic way. After about 5 hours of seeing the same brown and dark green shades, I get a bit dismayed. Personally, I would say that I'd much rather look at Twilight Princess, graphically, than Lair.
The game was originally supposed to have a "dark" tone to it but there have been recent reports of levels that very detailed and nicely lit. As for gameplay the game was created by Factor 5 (creators of the Rogue Squadron series) Who themselves have stated they felt they have "outdone" themselves with the games gameplay. I personally prefer gameplay over graphics any day however If the game looks good to me I will state that it looks good. Since it is personal however I will not be including these feelings in my reports. Im simply taking info and reviews from credited sources. I am lazy though and didnt feel like putting in links but if someone needs me to then I will oblige accordingly.
edit: in saying that I didnt give my personal comparison of graphics for both systems which I guess I will do now(This is only my opinion as I have both consoles and games comparable to each other). Some games look better on PS3. Some games look better on Xbox360. Some games Run smoother on Xbox360. Some games run smoother on PS3. To give my opinion its a tie. Its really up to the developers to create games that look good for both systems and some have accomplished that while others have not. Games for both systems will become better looking over time as with ANY console system released has done and for Sony to be competing with Xbox360 who already have there head start is pretty impressive.
edit: in saying that I didnt give my personal comparison of graphics for both systems which I guess I will do now(This is only my opinion as I have both consoles and games comparable to each other). Some games look better on PS3. Some games look better on Xbox360. Some games Run smoother on Xbox360. Some games run smoother on PS3. To give my opinion its a tie. Its really up to the developers to create games that look good for both systems and some have accomplished that while others have not. Games for both systems will become better looking over time as with ANY console system released has done and for Sony to be competing with Xbox360 who already have there head start is pretty impressive.
yeah I think we are going to have that problem for a while..
Some games ported over have been done badly graphics wise.. As i said earlier Oblivion doesnt look very good on the PS3... the PS3 is more than capable of doing it alot better than the game has been done for it..
if course you woudl still get the whoel game which is what makes something like oblivion anyway.
aestetics I think are the aid to helping improve the feel and expereince of a game... and forms a tool to the main thing which is game play..
like graphics, music.. lighting... atmosphere and all sorts make games feel good like intense... ever played FEAR? kinda creepy!
Some games ported over have been done badly graphics wise.. As i said earlier Oblivion doesnt look very good on the PS3... the PS3 is more than capable of doing it alot better than the game has been done for it..
if course you woudl still get the whoel game which is what makes something like oblivion anyway.
aestetics I think are the aid to helping improve the feel and expereince of a game... and forms a tool to the main thing which is game play..
like graphics, music.. lighting... atmosphere and all sorts make games feel good like intense... ever played FEAR? kinda creepy!
Chantelle
For the systems becoming tied in my opinion I see this as a good thing as Later installments will mean that both competing companies will be trying to out due each other possibly creating better games for us to play. I personally cant wait for the Wii specific games to come to past though they from a look at the list of Wii games these wont be apparent until late 2008 or even early 2009. Hopefully there will be alot more releases before then.
If we're lucky, Ninny-poo, Final Fantasy might go exclusive to Nintendo. They've recently started releasing more of their games for the DS, and I think this might be one of their last deals on the PS3 if they don't drop prices or find an easier way to produce games for the console. But even without that series, Nintendo has one thing going for it. It has characters and series that only it can produce. Mario, Legend of Zelda, and Metroid come to mind. There's a whole slew of popular games that Nintendo has at its disposal (Starfox, wooo!) that I think could easily over take the other two consoles in the coming years. Having less power in the hardware also leaves it open to the companies to come up with clever solutions to make up for it -- such as rich artwork (both still life and in-game graphics), good character development, and excellent stories as well as clever ways to use the Wii-mote. As much as I like my 360, and feel it was the best buy in this current time frame, I think Wii has a big advantage over the other two.
The main problem I see with the Wii is that if you are used to playing games with a controller you will take longer to adjust, because I've found that when I play consoles, I point the controller down. Other then that the Wii is by far the best. I don't care about fancy schmancy graphics as long as the game play is good. (I still play starcraft.) The Wii is the only one that is overly innovative. THe others are just newer versions of old consoles. That's why my money will be with the Wii.
