Anything you wanna add to this crazy world? Put in here!

 #87540  by Falcon
 
Wow, nice :)

 #87562  by Clank
 
i dont need to say it u already know but still im gona say it

AWESOME :P

 #87566  by Rugg
 
Good stuff TEH! Keep it coming! :)

 #87581  by Buffy's Shadow
 
Jawfin wrote:"although Revan did give in completely to its call" was that supposed to be did not* ?
Interesting stuff - thanks :)
Drat, another typo :x . My supposesed 20/20 eyes must have missed it. Thanks for pointing it out Jaw

 #87582  by Buffy's Shadow
 
Lesson 7- Legendary Figures- Kreia- Around 4000 BBY

There is still much mystery surrounding Kreia, along with her most famous students Revan and Meetra Surik (The Jedi Exile), and for decades, many have tried to unravel these mysteries.
Much about Kreia’s early life in unknown, including how she came to join the Jedi Order. However, after her apprenticeship ended, she became a Jedi Historian, and eventually a Jedi Master. She trained many apprentices during her time with the Jedi Order, and her most famous, perhaps even her downfall, was Revan.
Kreia’s teachings were frequently frowned upon by the Jedi Council, and when Revan left to join the Mandalorian Wars, she was given the blame when he “fell” to the Dark Side. Cast out, she began to doubt her own beliefs, and seemingly withdrew from life in the galaxy. In reality, she was tracing her former apprentice’s footsteps, searching for an answer to “why” he had done what the histories now know him for.
Eventually coming to Malachor V, she discovered the Trayus Academy. Meeting a group of assassins that had been left behind by Revan, they did not attack her, and instead presented her with all the knowledge of the Sith available at the academy. In time, she adopted the name “Darth Traya”, the Lord Of Betrayal.

"What do you wish to hear? That I once believed in the code of the Jedi? That I felt the call of the Sith, that perhaps, once, I held the galaxy by its throat? That for every good work that I did, I brought equal harm upon the galaxy? That perhaps what the greatest of the Sith Lords knew of evil, they learned from me?" –Kreia

Convinced that she was continuing Revan’s will, Traya re-established the Academy and began training more Sith Lords. Hunting for apprentices across the galaxy, she found Darth Sion and Darth Nihilus, who became two more of her legacies. They were convinced that she was their ally, but in time, they began to doubt that assumption.
Eventually Sion and Nihilus confronted her, and cast her out of the Sith Order. Betrayed by both sides of the Force, Kreia began to wander the galaxy yet again, searching for a “weapon” to use against the monsters that she had created. While she searched, the Sith Lords began to assassinate every Jedi they could find, and soon, the Jedi Order withdrew from the galaxy, and hid themselves away.
In time, Kreia found Meetra Surik, a Jedi General from Revan’s army who had come back and had been exiled by the Jedi Council. However, Surik’s appearance, mainly in-sighted by Atris (Who also exposed Surik’s identity in Coreworld databases), caused her to become a target to Sion and Nihilus, who consider Surik to be the “Last of the Jedi”. Sion attacked Surik (Along with a HK-50 assassin droid), and although Kreia helped her to escape, their ship, The Ebon Hawk, was almost completely destroyed by Sion.
However, an astromech droid onboard the ship, T3-M4 managed to get the ship working just well enough to limp into a mining facility in the Peragus system. Eventually, the HK-50 droid, who had stowed away on the Ebon Hawk, killed everyone in the facility, except Surik, Kreia, and a smuggler named Atton Rand.
Surik managed to wake up from a drug-induced sleep, and upon crawling through mining tunnels and fighting reprogramed mining droids, she escaped on the Ebon Hawk with Rand and Kreia. Kreia however, lost her left hand in a duel with her former apprentice Darth Sion, who had arrived to kill Surik. Jumping into hyperspace just as Sion’s ship fired on an asteroid near the Hawk (Or as the Hawk itself fired on the asteroid, neither situation has ever been proven), they escaped to the planet Telos.

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(Kreia with Meetra Surik)

After a series of misadventures on Telos, Kreia and Surik had somehow developed a Force Bond with each other. Banding together with Rand (Who was blackmailed by Kreia into helping them), the three of them, along with T3-M4 and the deactivated hulk of HK-47, sent out in search of the missing Jedi Masters.
They found the Masters scattered across the planets Telos, Korriban, Nar Shaddaa, Dantooine, and Onderon. Along the way, others joined them in their quest, including the bounty hunter Mira, Mandalore Canderous Ordo (a former companion of Revan), the former Sith apprentice Visas Marr, and Zabrak Bao-Dur (Who had served with Surik in the Mandalorian Wars, and had built the Mass Shadow Generator), and soon the Jedi Council re-assembled in the partially rebuilt Jedi Enclave on Dantooine.
During the journey, Surik began to notice that Kreia wasn’t a Jedi or a Sith, and existed somewhere in the “middle” of the Force. Kreia preached to the Exile about avoiding making any choices that only benefited a certain “side” of the Force, and tried to convience her to see her friends as merely “pawns”. Baffled by Kreia’s past, Surik had no idea of what was to come next.
As the re-assembled Council met on Dantooine, they blamed Surik for the reappearance of the Sith, and attempted to completely cut her off from the Force. Kreia, however, intervened.

“Step away! She has brought truth, and you condemn it? The arrogance! You will not harm her. You will not harm her ever again.
As you would pass judgment on her, I have come to pass judgment on you all. Do you wish to feel the teachings born of the Mandalorian Wars? Of all wars, of all tragedies that scream across the galaxy? Let me show you—you, who have forever seen the galaxy through the Force. See it through the eyes of the Exile!
"How could you ever hope to know the threat you face, when you have never walked in the dark places of the galaxy—faced war and death on such a scale. If you had traveled far enough, rather than waiting for the echo to reach you, perhaps you would have seen it for what it was. There is a place in the galaxy where the dark side of the Force runs strong. It is something of the Sith, but it was fueled by war. It corrupts all that walks on its surface, drowns them in the power of the dark side—it corrupts all life. And it feeds on death. Revan knew the power of such places… and the power in making them. They can be used to break the will of others… of Jedi, promising them power, and turning them to the dark side. The Mandalorian Wars were a series of massacres that masked another war, a war of conversion… culminating in a final atrocity that no Jedi could walk away from—save
one." – Kreia

As Kreia cut off the Masters from the Force, they became suspended in a place between life and death. Surik had been knocked unconscious by the Masters’ attempt to cut her connection to the Force, and was unable to stop Kreia from killing them. Leaving her former student behind to die, Kreia left her with one last lesson.

"And this is what I sought to understand. How one could turn away from such power, give up the Force… and still live. But I see what happened now. It is because you were afraid."

As Kreia prepared to leave, Atris’ handmaidens appeared, and Kreia allowed them to take her directly to Atris. Unbeknownst to her, Surik hadn’t died, and upon returning to her ship, she gave chase to Kreia, going to Telos just as Darth Nihilus attacked the planet, intend on feeding on the Jedi that were no longer there. Surik boarded Nihilus’ ship, and upon defeating him in lightsaber combat and leaving the ship, she blew the vessel out of orbit.
Returning to Atris’ academy, she dueled her former friend, and defeated her. Forcing Atris to reveal where Kreia had gone, she responded saying that Surik knew where she was. Inside, Surik knew the exact answer.
Leaving immediately, Surik and crew traveled to Malachor V, where Kreia and Sion waited for her arrival. As the Hawk was forced down in a lightning storm, the crew was split up, and Surik continued onto the academy on her own. In the meantime, Bao-Dur’s remote reactivated the Mass Shadow Generator and waited for her signal.
Fighting her away through swarm after swarm after swarm of Sith, Surik eventually reached the Academy’s core, where she fought with Darth Sion, who, in his twisted form of the emotion, admitted that he loved her. Surik used this ‘love’ against the Dark Lord and defeated him. Gathering her thoughts, Surik finally walked towards the future scene of her final battle with her former teacher.
Kreia was defeated after a long and strenuous duel, in which she lost her remaining hand and continued dueling while wielding three lightsabers with her mind, and upon her death-bed she gave Surik one last gift, she told her what the future would hold. She predicted that eventually the Mandalorians would die a death that “will last a millennia”, and that “The Republic will fall, and in its place, an Empire will rise, only to be defeated by the very people who helped create it.” With this last bit of knowledge, Kreia died, her body destroyed when Surik left the planet and activated the Shadow Generator, effectively destroying the planet once and for all.

 #87630  by Buffy's Shadow
 
Lesson 8- Technology- Star Forge And Star Maps- 30,000 BBY to 4000 BBY

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The Tale of Revan is probably one of the most famous among the Jedi and Sith alike. He is one of the few Force users in known history to serve both sides of the Force, and survive. His destruction of Darth Malak’s Sith Faction was a great victory to the Republic, and in that space of time is where we’ll start today’s lesson.
As I explained earlier, The Rakatan Empire ruled the galaxy around 25,000 BBY, before they became so far stretched that their empire rotted from within itself. Before that however, they were the most powerful beings in the galaxy at the time, apart from the Hutts, who were just getting their own empire underway.
The crowning achievement of the Rakatan Empire was the Star Forge, an infinite factory that fed off of the Dark Side of the Force. The Star Forge was built over an extended period of time, by slaves captured from their home planets. These slaves originated from Correlia, Coruscant, Manaan, Tatooine, Sleheyron, among others. Upon the end of construction, all of the slaves were executed.
The Star Maps, were in turn, also destroyed, but they slowly repaired themselves, and by the time Revan came looking for them, they had been repaired well enough that with enough data from each, a complete map to the Star Forge could be made.
One of the downfalls of the Rakatan Empire was the Star Forge. The factory, due to its Dark Side tendencies, corrupted any Force user that used it for too long. As the Rakata used it, they slowly began to lose their connection the Force, and soon, only a select few of the Rakata could use the Force.
After the end of the Rakatan Empire, the Star Forge sat dormant, until former Jedi Revan and Malak came looking for it. Once they found it, they quickly turned out an all but invincible army. Soon, they invaded the Republic, and the Jedi Civil War erupted across the scattered ashes of the Mandalorian Wars.
When Revan was captured by the Jedi, and his badly damaged mind “reprogramed” by the Jedi Council, he and Bastila Shan, among others were dispatched to find the Star Forge, and destroy it. Although they found the Star Maps, Bastila was captured by Darth Malak, and after weeks of torture, she turned to the Dark Side.
Revan and the others, however, came to Rakata Prime, intent on destroying the factory. After they entered the Star Forge and fought their way through its defenses, Revan and Bastila dueled, with the penalty for the loser being death. Although Revan defeated her, he refused to kill Bastila, and instead used the love that the two of them shared to bring her back to the Light. Redeemed, Bastila used her Battle Meditation to help the Republic destroy the Star Forge, while Revan dueled and defeated his old apprentice, Darth Malak.
The crew of the Ebon Hawk barely managed to make it out of the Star Forge in time, and it was by luck alone that they were not destroyed along with it. However, upon their return, they were hailed as heroes of the Republic. The remains of the Star Forge remained in orbit around Rakata Prime for decades, and along with the now uninhabited planet Rakata Prime, they still lay in orbit, a silent remainder of the past.

 #87634  by jawfin
 
I'm pretty sure that Kreia's argument in KOTOR2 was that the force always was and there wasn't originally a dark or light side, it's just how it was applied by the users that make it so. Much like any person can use his talents for good or bad. So was there always a dark and a light or was it shaped by the users?

 #87657  by Mandalorian
 
i think kreia just said that to make us not curious of her plans. i do remember one quote that she regrets her actions and hates all that happend to her.

*EDIT*: Here are some photos of these characters in Jedi Academy:

Dark Side Bastila With Starforge in the backround:
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Kreia:
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Darth Traya:
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 #87665  by Clank
 
nice pics

and teh you should be a profesor in a star wars school lol :P

 #87667  by Buffy's Shadow
 
Jawfin wrote:I'm pretty sure that Kreia's argument in KOTOR2 was that the force always was and there wasn't originally a dark or light side, it's just how it was applied by the users that make it so. Much like any person can use his talents for good or bad. So was there always a dark and a light or was it shaped by the users?
Exactly. Kreia didn't believe in a "simple-minded view" of the Force. She used both sides pretty openly, and wasn't afraid to voice her opinions on subjects. Something i find interesting about her character.

I think the the Light and Dark view was formed by the Jedi and Sith respectively. It's kinda like what Kyle said in JA "Powers arn't necessarily good or evil, it's how you use them." It's all a point of view

 #87674  by jawfin
 
So the Source Forge was a machine that could turn the people who ran it to the dark side due to how it was made? Or was it the job it did? Maybe it was build by Walt Disney!

 #87676  by Buffy's Shadow
 
Jawfin wrote:So the Source Forge was a machine that could turn the people who ran it to the dark side due to how it was made? Or was it the job it did? Maybe it was build by Walt Disney!
Close, but no cigar. The Star Forge fed off the Dark Side, and over time, it completely overwhelmed any user of the Force with the seer amount of Dark Side energy it contained.

 #87677  by Mandalorian
 
The Emperor's Hand wrote:
Jawfin wrote:So the Source Forge was a machine that could turn the people who ran it to the dark side due to how it was made? Or was it the job it did? Maybe it was build by Walt Disney!
Close, but no cigar. The Star Forge fed off the Dark Side, and over time, it completely overwhelmed any user of the Force with the seer amount of Dark Side energy it contained.
it was also a factory that build droids :P

 #87678  by jawfin
 
The Emperor's Hand wrote:
Jawfin wrote:So the Source Forge was a machine that could turn the people who ran it to the dark side due to how it was made? Or was it the job it did? Maybe it was build by Walt Disney!
Close, but no cigar. The Star Forge fed off the Dark Side, and over time, it completely overwhelmed any user of the Force with the seer amount of Dark Side energy it contained.
So that was really my original question. If it fed off the dark side, that means the dark side had to be there before it was built. So that means there were many dark side Rakatan users to make the dark side so the machine could run off it - which means the badness of Rakatan was already there and thus we could hardly blame the machine for their corruption. It's a chicken/egg situation. Unless of course there was a race before the Rakatan that were dark side users?

 #87681  by Buffy's Shadow
 
Jawfin wrote:
The Emperor's Hand wrote:
Jawfin wrote:So the Source Forge was a machine that could turn the people who ran it to the dark side due to how it was made? Or was it the job it did? Maybe it was build by Walt Disney!
Close, but no cigar. The Star Forge fed off the Dark Side, and over time, it completely overwhelmed any user of the Force with the seer amount of Dark Side energy it contained.
So that was really my original question. If it fed off the dark side, that means the dark side had to be there before it was built. So that means there were many dark side Rakatan users to make the dark side so the machine could run off it - which means the badness of Rakatan was already there and thus we could hardly blame the machine for their corruption. It's a chicken/egg situation. Unless of course there was a race before the Rakatan that were dark side users?
Well, the Rakata are the only species known before the Republic that used the Force. Anything before, there's no records of. We may never know (unless someone writes a novel about it)

 #87727  by Buffy's Shadow
 
Lesson 9- Legendary Figures- Bastila Shan- 4000 BBY

The story of Bastila Shan goes hand-in-hand with Revan, in more ways than one. She saved his life from certain death, and in turn, he brought her back from the brink of pure darkness. In time, she became the main cause for the Jedi Order’s continuing existence, rebuilding the Order after the First Jedi Purge.
Shan was born on Talravin to her parents, Helena Shan and an unknown father. Compared to her father, who she enjoyed a loving and happy relationship with, she was never on good terms with her mother, and she would later tell Revan that she resented her mother for what she did to her father.
Sometime later, she was discovered to have Force Sensitivity. Her parents gave her to the Jedi Order, and over time, Bastila proved to be an excellent Jedi Sentinel. It was also during this time that her Battle Meditation was found, and the rare ability gave her special renown. During this time, she also first met Revan, who would play a significant part in her life later on.
When the Mandalorian Wars erupted across the Outer Rim, Revan and his friend Malak called out for the Jedi to join the war. Although the Jedi Council refused, Revan gave a passionate speech to his fellow Jedi, and many, including Meetra Suris (the future Jedi Exile), agreed and joined Revan. Bastila was one of the few who refused to join, choosing instead to remain loyal to the Jedi Council.
The war ended, and after a period of time, Revan returned, this time at the head of an invasion fleet. As he and Malak instigated the Jedi Civil War, Bastila found herself thrust into a position of power, mainly due to her rare gift of Battle Meditation. During the middle of the war, Shan took part in the mission to capture Darth Revan. The mission ended in near disaster, when Malak fired on his Master’s ship, nearly killing Revan. Bastila, possibly the only Jedi who survived the affair, managed to save Revan’s life, although his mind was too badly damaged to ever fully recover his memories.

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(Jedi Knights Bastila Shan and Revan)


After Shan brought Revan before the Jedi Council, they decided to reprogram Revan’s mind with a new identity. Bastila was assigned to watch him, in case his Force talents or his memories began to return. However, the small fleet that the two of them were assigned to fell under attack above the planet of Taris, and Bastila, Revan, and Republic soldier Carth Onasi, were the only survivors of the attack. Using escape pods, they managed to get to the planet below. Things, however, turned out differently than expected.
Bastila was captured by a local swoop gang The Black Vulkers, after her pod crashed into the Undercity of Taris. Revan and Carth landed in the Upper City, and managed to avoid detection long enough to locate and rescue Bastila. During this time, Revan’s memories began to slowly return, along with his Force sensitivity. After they escaped Taris, the Jedi Council decided to retrain Revan, hoping that his memories would lead them to the Star Forge.
As they searched for the Star Maps over the planets Korriban, Tatooine, Manaan, and Kashyyyk, Revan and Bastila slowly began to fall in love with each other, although Bastila refused to commit to it until Malak was stopped. However, as the group headed towards the final Star Map, Darth Malak’s ship, The Leviathan, intercepted them in hyperspace, and captured then.
Although they escaped, Malak confronted them in front of the hanger, and revealed to Revan who he really was. Incapacitating Shan and Onasi, Malak ignited his saber and did battle with Revan. Coming close to killing Revan, Malak was stopped by Shan, who distracted him long enough to allow Revan and Carth to escape.
Malak eventually beat her, and after weeks upon weeks of torturing her, he managed to turn her to the Dark Side. As Revan and the others found the Star Forge, their ship crashed to the planet below, mainly due to a force field around the planet. However, although they found a way to reach the factory above, Bastila confronted Revan on-top of the ancient Rakatan Temple. She tried to turn him to the Dark Side, and after he refused, she fled to the Star Forge.
Chasing after her in hot pursuit, Revan entered the Star Forge, and fought his way through an endless amount of droids and Sith troops. Eventually, he found Bastila and the two engaged in a duel, with Revan coming out as the victor. He refused to kill Shan, although she requested it. Instead, he reminded her of the love they shared and managed to bring her back to the Light Side. As Revan dueled Darth Malak, Bastila used her Battle Meditation to aid the Republic fleet. In the end, Malak was defeated, and the crew of the Ebon Hawk were hailed as heroes. Although Shan and Revan were soon married, their happiness was short lived.
Over time, more and more of Revan’s memories returned, and he eventually left, without giving Bastila a reason or an explanation, only telling her that he was protecting her. Five years later, the former Jedi/Sith Kreia would say this about the two’s parting.

“It would have helped, had he made her understand. But she was always strong-willed, that one, and did not understand war as Revan did.”

Staying behind along with the rest of the Ebon Hawk’s crew, Bastila eventually gave birth to a son, Vaner. She survived the First Jedi Purge, and later rebuilt the Jedi Order, along with Meetra Surik’s companions. However, it is known that Revan never returned, and that Shan later died never knowing what happened to her husband. Their line continued on through the years, however, and eventually their descendant Satele Shan became the grandmaster of the Jedi Order.

 #87757  by Clank
 
i knew from the begining that bastil was ur favorite (is it O.o)

but what about jane THE EMPERORS HAAAND!!!!!

 #87769  by Buffy's Shadow
 
[quote="alex"]i knew from the begining that bastila was ur favorite (is she? O.o)[quote]

*Sigh* Yes Alex, Bastila is one of my favorite SW characters.

 #87774  by Clank
 
hehe u forgot when u close a quote u need to put like this [/quote] u closed it like this [quote]

 #87914  by Buffy's Shadow
 
Lesson 9- Legendary Figures- Han Solo- 0 BBY To Present

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The exploits of smuggler-turned-Rebel Han Solo have been told across the galaxy, with thousands of myths and legends passed around tables late at night in bars. In truth, Solo’s life is one of betrayals, switched sides, and thousands of narrow escapes. But to him, it doesn’t matter. In his own words, “Never tell me the odds.”
His early life Is shrouded in mystery, with Solo being orphaned at an early age. He was eventually found by Garris Shrike, who treated him cruelly, until Han was about nineteen, he stow away on a passing ship, and left Shrike behind. He was hoping to make a living as a pilot, and later to join the Imperial Academy.
Eventually, Han did indeed join the Imperials and although he graduated at the top of his class, he was quickly drummed out of the service after he saved a Wookie from being killed for no apparent reason. The Wookie, whose name was Chewbacca, swore a life-debt to Han, and the two quickly became partners, working for whoever would be willing to pay. Eventually, they found themselves working for Jabba the Hutt.
While smuggling spice for Jabba, the Millennium Falcon was boarded by an Imperial starship, and faced with no other choice, Han dumped the spice, and was unable to recover it. Jabba was furious, and demanded that Solo pay him back for it. Months passed, and Solo never found enough money to pay the Hutt back. Desperate for money, he and Chewbacca chose to transport a group from Tatooine to Alderaan. Little did they know that their lives were about to change.
The group, which included Luke Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi, was captured by the Death Star, the Imperial’s newest super-weapon. While Kenobi disabled the tractor beam holding them in place, Solo and Chewbacca were convinced by Skywalker that they should rescue the Alderaanian heir, Princess Leia. Skywalker finally managed to convince Han by telling him that he would be rewarded with “More wealth than you can imagine.” Sensing an opportunity to finally pay back Jabba, Han agreed.
Rescuing Leia, the group managed to fight their way back to the Falcon although Kenobi sacrificed himself to save them. Quickly making the jump to hyperspace, the group arrived at the Rebel base on Yavin 4. However, the Death Star was in quick pursuit, and the Rebels began to devise a plan to destroy it. The attempt almost ended in disaster, with Darth Vader nearly managing to kill the last pilot available for the run, who happened to be Luke (his son). Just as Vader was about to make the shot, Solo fired on Vader’s wingman, distracting the Sith Lord from making the killing shot. Within moments, Luke had fired the shot that destroyed the first Death Star.
Han, Chewie, and Luke were hailed as heroes, although Han repeatedly refused to join the Rebel Alliance. Eventually, the Empire caught up with the Rebels, and as they came close to capturing Leia and other Rebel leaders, Han quickly made an escape with the princess. Escaping just in the nick of time, they set course for the planet Bespin, run by Han’s old friend Lando Calrissian. However, the Empire was there waiting, and captured all of them.
Han was given to the bounty hunter Boba Fett, after admitting to Leia that he loved her and being frozen in carbonite. For the next year, Leia and the others led a search for him, and eventually, they found him, in Jabba’s palace. A daring rescue attempt was made, and soon, Solo was freed from his prison, and was able to rejoin his friends.
Solo joined the Rebels in destroying the second Death Star and killing the Emperor. A few years afterwards, he and Leia were married. The couple had three children, Jacen, Jaina, and Anakin. However, although all went on to become powerful Jedi Knights, Anakin sacrificed himself in the Yuuzhan Vong war, and Jacen later turned to the Dark Side and was killed by his sister. Also, Han’s closest friend, Chewbacca, was one of the first killed in the Yuuzhan Vong war, when he sacrificed himself to save Han and Anakin.
Throughout the years, Solo had proven himself a true hero and has survived many battles, making him invaluable to the New Republic. What the future years will bring, no-one knows.

 #87919  by MasterM
 
hey i know you probably have a plan and all, but are you going to talk about the assassination attempt on luke? cause i thought that was one of the most interesting bits

 #87923  by Buffy's Shadow
 
MasterM wrote:hey i know you probably have a plan and all, but are you going to talk about the assassination attempt on luke? cause i thought that was one of the most interesting bits
I can try and fit it in :D

 #87925  by Clank
 
i remember the first time i saw that scene when han got unfrozen from that stone and leia wearing that bounty hunter helmet

then han sayd 'i cant see' then leia responded 'you will get your vision back'
i was so happy that he finaly got saved and back in the movie i was sad when the frozen him and seeing him in the stone like hes screaming