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 #30415  by BadWolf
 
(6):Provoking any players on the server is prohibited and will result in an applicable punishment.
this a plainly stated rule, and yet it has been happening on server without punishment

what exactly is the 'applicable punishment' for this?

just today loki (under a dif name) hug and kiss spammed aj to the piont that he went on a laming and flaming spree towards loki and others

can somebody please explain to me what we can do?

 #30438  by fagooffy013
 
If I might add, your Server Rules and Punishment Policy take care of the answer up front, however not always can they be enforced, mainly because no admins. are on at the time. I will add that most people that frequent your server know the rules and inform rule bender / breakers rite away, cool stuff.
Anyway just some thoughts.
 #30441  by Akimoto
 
dyyor wrote:
(6):Provoking any players on the server is prohibited and will result in an applicable punishment.
this a plainly stated rule, and yet it has been happening on server without punishment

what exactly is the 'applicable punishment' for this?

just today loki (under a dif name) hug and kiss spammed aj to the piont that he went on a laming and flaming spree towards loki and others

can somebody please explain to me what we can do?
You should have punished Løkì for spam kiss/hugging him before aj started laming him. As you mentioned above "Provoking any players on the server is prohibited and will result in an applicable punishment."

It is the highest ranking admin that should decide what to do :)

 #30823  by Troy
 
I have to agree that people lame and break other rules and they don't get punished. Mainly because there aren't many admins on at the time

 #30825  by Darko
 
This rule isnt very clearly stated actually.
Theres a massive difference between verbal provoking and physical in-game proving. Ie hugging, taunting, standing on heads, jumping around, following.

I tend to ignore this rule. As i feel it is up to the person receiving it to stand up for themselves, they don't need an admin to hold their hand through every social encounter gone wrong.

I feel if provoking goes to the level of light laming (eg, shaving with your saber) or the verbal provoking gets too much eg. "your a noob, your sh*t, id kick your ass any day, stop running like a little girl" Ill normally have a word and that will be that.
If the situation persists just treat it as you do a lamer, at the end of the day their causing the same disruption to the server and its accupants

Of course if an admin is not present nothing can be done. But thats always going to be the case. However its a particularly serious case just screenie and post it here.

Hope this helps.

 #30827  by Troy
 
I see what you mean but if the person who is being provoked lames the provoker the person who is being provoked will get in trouble not the provoker.

 #31153  by Aayci Warrick
 
i would just think that as soon as you see that all the hugging is making some1 mad to warn them to stop, and if they don't, slap them and sleep them if they continue.

i think adding the rule of insubordination would help with that.

 #31163  by Darko
 
It is no doubt a tricky situation.
But it can be solved in Three ways.

1: And admin is on the server, send him a personal message in-game. "hi admin, please help me, i haven't done anything wrong and I'm trying to ffa/duel but (name) keeps hugging me and taunting me. Its really really annoying and iv asked him to stop and he wont. Please do something"
The admin can then react.

2: Try to reason with the person. Ask him/her to stop. Something iv noticed that if your being taunted or annoyed by someone, duel them. If you beat them, they will duel you maybe.. 3 times. Beat them and they will move on to someone else.

3: Leave the server, come back in 30 minutes or so. Also try having Xfire so you can see who's on the server and see when he leaves.

The reason why its a bit tricky for an admin is because his decision to react is governed by a few factors
1: Am i bothered?
2: Maybe theres a reason he's annoying the other person, something the other person did to him when i wasnt on
3: Is this realy my fight? Should i get involved?
4: Could i get into any trouble for intervening? Will the provoker claim it was admin abuse, screen shot it and post it on the forums and mess you around for a few days?
5: Will intervening damage my reputation? (Depends on the admin)

Although if you actually contact the admin with /amsay, or a whisper, it gets you a much bigger chance of getting help

This rule for provoking is probably due a few adjustments to deal with provoking/harassment

PS: Insubordination isnt the answer. It will fix this problem and (maybe?) a few others. But it creates much bigger problems (abuse).

 #31254  by Troy
 
i like those rules and they sound like they would work.

 #35348  by Cross
 
^.^ Several people had problem with turning on lightsaber and turning it off recently ^.^( tho my distance measured to them was far ^.^). Is that against rule??^.^ someone wise has called it provoking, but I don't see any provoking in that one since it is not offending player or physically harming him ^.^, so would it be consider against the rules or not?^.^

If you could just give me few thoughts about it ^.^ I would be more than happy and grateful ^^

 #35350  by saunby
 
Personally if I were in a situation where I had to deal with a provoker (as long as I knew the whole story of what was going on) I would take similar action as if they had lamed, warn them, warn them again, slap them, sleep them and silence them if needs be.