[ISHNARE]

World of Warcraft
5 $400 PCs
Each PC running 10 wow aplications
50 wow apss
boting repeatable instances for loot then selling to vendor from mount
one wow app making 750g per hour
.75 x 50 = 37.5k
1k= $0.25
0.25x37.5 = $9.3 per hour

16 hours per day= $150
6days a week= $900
3,600 per month with only 5 hours of work


its a hobby

[ISHNARE]

http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productd ... 56-desktop




Windows 10 Home 64bit English





8GB, 1600MHz, DDR3L; up to 16GB





1TB 7200 rpm SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive

[ISHNARE]

AMD A8-7410 APU Quad-Core with Radeon™ R5 Graphics





Windows 10 Home 64bit English





8GB, 1600MHz, DDR3L; up to 16GB





1TB 7200 rpm SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive

[ISHNARE]

If anyone needs a brand new up to date PC I will not hesitate to send them $400 through paypal

[jawfin]

You factor power consumption into that? Electrickery costs a fortune here in Australia!
Also, there's depreciation of your assets, meaning, you need to spring for new PCs on occasion.
Also, also, look into mining cryptocurrencies, you may get a bigger pay-out from that (but requires high-end graphics cards for their math capability)
Also, also, also, you may find your MC operation would be cheaper if you ran the same system from hired cloud servers. Like $15 a month for 1 CPU 1 GB RAM.

[ISHNARE]

Thanks

[Makira]

Runescape has more items that are worth more $$ and you dont need a bunch of WoW subscriptions. used to do alot of Runescape farming back in the day xD

[Zabuza]

Actually $2,850 a month since you didn't factor in your subscription cost. However, you can purchase game time by buying a WoW token on the auction house with your gold. At the moment, on average, they cost about 56k a pop. So, if you went with that option you'll be getting about $2,900 a month (going by your 16hr/6d/4w). Either way, your monthly figure is incorrect.

[Frog]

Is this illegal?

[Zabuza]

Is this illegal?

In regards to Blizzard's Code of Conduct, yes.

You are responsible for how you and your account are represented in the game world. Cheating in any fashion will result in immediate action. Using third-party programs to automate any facet of the game, exploiting bugs, or engaging in any activity that grants an unfair advantage is considered cheating.

[Frog]

eh, glad I'm not playing WOW. What I hear is that it's a economy simulator anyway, and since players can exploit the game for getting money it just sounds ridiculous.

[John]

Then wait until the IRS catches you. You'll wish for death then.

[Makira]

Speaking of WoW, im a legit player if anyone wants to play sometime. i have alliance and horde toons and am willing to run around with anyone!

on the illegal side of things, thats why i mentioned RuneScape, as you can order a pizza and have it delivered to your house by spending ingame gold. one of the few games that has the ingame market translate into real world currency.

[jawfin]

Bot farming violates the EULA - of which when you advertise what you're doing in public like this means they may sue you for your income. Not to mention the Tax department as John said, they are rather skilled at recouping loot. And finally, encouraging others the break the law is a criminal offense. Whereas, cryptocurrency mining is a legitimate income, nevertheless you would still declare your earnings, unless you're looking for a change of residence. (Disclaimer, I do not mine cryptocurrency, the payout isn't worth it - I just mention it as it's actually not illegal.)

[Uscari]

And finally, encouraging others the break the law is a criminal offense.

That's the only thing I wouldn't be sure about, because depending on what country you live in, free speech is a right guaranteed to civilians, and some countries/states protect it more than others.

ISH's profile says he lives in Virginia, and I'm not sure if that state has a cybersecurity/commerical clause in their state constitution or free speech laws, but encouraging people to break the law is a pretty broad statement. Like instructing people on how to break the law can be seen as encouragement, but so can just telling someone it would be a good idea to break the law, which I figure in most instances isn't a criminal offense.

[jawfin]

Promoting and advising people how to commit a crime is against many laws. And hiring people and sending them money to engage in fraudulent activity is against most country's laws. It could, by extension, also be considered money laundering via the Internet. I really would not want to test the law on these offenses in any country! I'm no lawyer, but I'm sure I'll need one if I took up his offer!!

[Uscari]

Well there's no doubt it is shady, and honestly I have to agree that ISH should probably cease to do this if he is not 100% sure that it is legal in his state and country. Beyond that, he might face legal trouble from Blizzard if his actions put them in any struggle with authorities.

[Thunderbird]

I know someone who used to work for Blizzard, I might tell him more about it. #snitch

[MetaDragoon]

I know someone who used to work for Blizzard, I might tell him more about it. #snitch

can you also talk to him and say that I was unjustly banned from Diablo 3 about 4 years ago for hacking botting when I didn't get on for like 5 weeks. Lol

[Makira]

@Meta youre not missing too much =P seasons havent been living up to their expectation. rinse and repeat for alot of things. it is sad and unjust tho, from what information has been given.

[Frog]

But back on topic, there is a much more simpler way to get money from a video game, and it's legit!

Find the most egotistical friend of yours, challenge him to a sniper war on Battlefield for sixty bucks. Now, be as patient as your possibly can and just do nothing. Wait. Even if you see him, do not get a shot off. Wait for thirty minutes, and due to the nature of a egotist, he or she will lose patience fast. They'll run out in the open, and then take the shot. Rinse and repeat. Never fails.

[jawfin]

In Australia gambling on a sporting event, in real life or online, is illegal if it's not done by a body recognised by the tax department - I'm being picky, but just saying it's not technically legal.

Also, at best you'd only be making $120 an hour, given you could line up the victims. You'd proably only get 1 or 2 a day, after a couple of goes with one of them they'll learn to not come back, or out-wait you - thus more than 30 mins.

By the way, is that how you afforded your new computer? I did ask you if it involved shooting other people, and you said No. I feel so betrayed....

[Gollum]

We found this new site called CSGO Lotto—so I'll link it down in the description if you guys want to check it out. We were betting on it today and I won a pot of like $69 or something like that, so it was a pretty small pot, but it was like the coolest feeling ever. I ended up following them on Twitter and stuff, and they hit me up and they're talking to me about potentially doing like a skin sponsorship.

edit for MM: these are words spoken by TmarTn in his first video regarding the site, good luck finding that video though, cos' he took it down in a scurry! Don't forget to tell your kids how much of a scumbag he and his buds are though!

but @isnhare, I'm legitimately confused as to why you're openly advertising and promoting something that's clearly against the EULA that you agreed to. It's kind of a weird hobby to randomly walk into a person's house and shout "Hey! I was just over there breaking the law for cash! Want some of the dough?"

[jawfin]

You're a weird guy Gollum, you know that right? <3

[MasterM]

We found this new site called CSGO Lotto—so I'll link it down in the description if you guys want to check it out. We were betting on it today and I won a pot of like $69 or something like that, so it was a pretty small pot, but it was like the coolest feeling ever. I ended up following them on Twitter and stuff, and they hit me up and they're talking to me about potentially doing like a skin sponsorship.

Was that actually a youtube video description from that whole mess?