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 #137102  by CarlosJVM
 
Hello, i'm CarlosJVM well the problem is, that long before i was a member of Dark empire of the sith, or -[DE]- at that moment i didnt knew that there was a problem betwen DE and KR, i entered KR with my DE tag and i was automaticly banned.

I need to know if theres a chance that i can be unbanned, becouse, i'm not a member of DE anymore, besides i never knew there was a problem betwen you two, TY
 #137105  by jawfin
 
No worries Carlos, I'll lift the ban.
DE though, haha, they are the joke of the JKA world. Check out this post about their "raid": -
http://www.knights-reborn.org/forum/vie ... php?t=4631 (Members Only)
And to be fair to visitors, I actually made that exact post on their forums, but I can guarantee they would have deleted it!
 #137131  by jawfin
 
Well, congratulations on earning your ban officially, yet again.

After many warnings (and bans) you still insist on recruiting on KR - so may I express the same level of respect which you show us and say get lost.

As I continually warned you on server, as you are the leader you represent them - thus what you do is your clan's policy. As you choose to recruit unashamedly, it is obviously your clan's policy to do so - therefore we cannot trust any of you. So anyone who comes to KR wearing your tags in not welcome - as I also warned you on server. They share your fate.

Your whole clan is now a stink in our nose.
 #137134  by John
 
Oh, Carlos. When will you ever learn.
 #137227  by CarlosJVM
 
Wow! hey, There must be a problem here...

1- I am not the leader of my clan, therefore, im not responsable for what they do...
2- I dont know if a clan member may be recruiting on your server...
3- After you unban me, i only enter KR once, and i dont know why, i suddently get a ban without understanding the reason...
4- As same that 3nd, KR never warned me...

With all respect... Investigate before acting...

Apologies for all the trouble, hope we can figure this out

Thanks
 #137229  by jawfin
 
1. You are responsible for what *you* do. As your clan has not kicked you out for your wrong-doing they obviously support it.

2. See my investigation below...

3. You have dynamic IP. Use Google to find out what that means. You were never unbanned, we just keep banning your new IPs as you get assigned. But don't worry, I'll put ranges in when I have the time.

4. The Message Of The Day specifically says "No Recruiting". You have been banned several times in the past for this exact offense. KR have no obligation to warn recruiters they will be banned, even if we felt compelled to.

With all respect, here is the investigation, original text and some pointed translations: -
(For any interested, here a rough translation.)

[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: hi speak spanish?
[MartianManhunter]: no sorry

[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: speak spanish?
[James-Bondiola]: yeah
[James-Bondiola]: si
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: eres de pais latino no?
[James-Bondiola]: si porque?
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: te interesaria ser un soldado para el clan?
you interested in becoming a soldier for the clan?
[James-Bondiola]: nose
[James-Bondiola]: tienen pagina?
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: si
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: soldado o jedi tu eliges
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: pero nada de siths
[James-Bondiola]: como es?
[James-Bondiola]: jedi quiza
[James-Bondiola]: porque no siths?
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: hay te la paso
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: somos un clan puramente jedi
We are a purely Jedi clan
[James-Bondiola]: aguanta
[James-Bondiola]: sos argentino?
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: si
[James-Bondiola]: yo tambieen xD
[James-Bondiola]: perdon se prende solo
[James-Bondiola]: cuantos a�os tenes?
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: aca te dejo la pagina
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: 16
[James-Bondiola]: ahh tranca
[James-Bondiola]: de baires?
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: jose2000123.wix.com/jnrclan-latino-jk3
Website of said loser clan
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: sabes poner la consola no?
[James-Bondiola]: si
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: ok y subir el chat
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: ok ya la tienes
[James-Bondiola]: si
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: tenemos un servidor propio cualquier cosa
[James-Bondiola]: despues veo si entro
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: puedes dejar un msj en al pagina
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: la
[James-Bondiola]: ok
[James-Bondiola]: preguntale al JNR que tenes adelante
[James-Bondiola]: co

[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: goth
[(J.N.R)Goth(pwn)]: QUe paso xd
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: estara el sv dentro de poco
[(J.N.R)Goth(pwn)]: Ni idea
[(J.N.R)Goth(pwn)]: Estas en axon?
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: no lo tengo al axon
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: pero estaremos en problemas xd si se dan cuenta
but we will be in trouble if they realize
[(J.N.R)Goth(pwn)]: ??? No lo tenes?
[(J.N.R)Goth(pwn)]: Como era tu usuario?
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: carlos050
[(J.N.R)Goth(pwn)]: Ah xd
[(J.N.R)Goth(pwn)]: Y porque estariamos en problemas? xd
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: xd sera mejor q salgamos
we'd better get out
[(J.N.R)Goth(pwn)]: por?
[(J.N.R)Goth(pwn)]: Que paso
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: se daran cuenta de q reclute
will realize recruits
[(J.N.R)Goth(pwn)]: No reclutes xdd son molestos con esos aca parece
No recruit, are upset with those here seems
[(J.N.R)Goth(pwn)]: Se ponen a banear xd
They are set to ban
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: si lo se xd
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: evita llamar la atencion xd
avoid drawing attention
[(J.N.R)Goth(pwn)]: Yo me llevo bien con los admins de aca xd
[(J.N.R)Goth(pwn)]: La otra vez LKI se metio con un tag de JNR a jodernos
[(J.N.R)Goth(pwn)]: Deci que les explique porque nos estaba dejando mal
[(J.N.R)Goth(pwn)]: Tan solo chupale las medias cosa de que no se enojen


Thanks for having me waste my time proving you a complete and absolute liar.
All those xD faces, seems like you really enjoy breaking our rules.
So we got it all figured out. Bye.
 #137233  by CarlosJVM
 
My tag name is (J.N.R)CarlosJVM(M2) we are two carlos...

That carlos on the log is just a member, and he's not a leader. And yes, i have dynamic ip, that means my ip is changing, but someone already banned me with area's, before this...

You're right, im reponsible for what i do, but i didnt recruit on your server, or any servers on jk3 that have a No recruiting rule... at Least, This carlos didnt do that, so there's no reason to put a general JNR ban,

You see, again, investigate before acting, i accept that one of our members break kr rules and we are sorry about this... we already told him and with a respective punishment... but that's not a reason to ban us all...
 #137249  by Clank
 
If you claim that the Carlos we see there recruiting is not you, then you shouldnt have a problem connecting...Since the Carlos that was recruiting got the boot

Oh and btw playing cards like "you banned the wrong person" wont work here since we can specifically see who connected under what IP (duuuuh)
 #137251  by jawfin
 
To be fair to CarlosJVM I just banned all Carlos'. It never even remotely occurred to me that a clan would have 2 different members with the same name - I mean, I understand some clans allow 1 member to have multiple names... go figure. Besides, when I have finished my research for my next post I can tell you this doesn't change anything.
 #137262  by jawfin
 
So, I did some more research and pulled some random samples out over the last year.
And I will state at the outset you are in a clan of scumbags. The ban on JNR will stay as they obviously have no control over their members, and considering their chat they actively support recruiting.


Date: 6th of December, 2014:

[(J.N.R)§eba(M) to Mick]: speak spanish?
[Mick to (J.N.R)§eba(M)]: yep
[Mick to (J.N.R)§eba(M)]: si
[(J.N.R)§eba(M) to Mick]: o:
[(J.N.R)§eba(M) to Mick]: de que pais eres?
[Mick to (J.N.R)§eba(M)]: España
[(J.N.R)§eba(M) to Mick]: estas interesado en unirte en algun clan?
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Grunty]: hi
<Clan>((J.N.R)§eba(M)): otro mas
[Mick to (J.N.R)§eba(M)]: si :)
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Grunty]: you speak spanish?
<Clan>((J.N.R)§eba(M)): y dijo que si le interesa un clan
<Clan>((J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)): mortal
<Clan>((J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)): dale la pagina
[Grunty to (J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: wavin
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Grunty]: hi
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Grunty]: you speak spanish?
<Clan>((J.N.R)Plokoon(J.S.L)): exelente
[(J.N.R)§eba(M) to Mick]: te doy la pag de nuestro clan aver si estas interesado
[Grunty to (J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: nah, soz
[Mick to (J.N.R)§eba(M)]: ok
<Clan>((J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)): xd la mayoria a que les hablo yo no saben español
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to KingKong]: hi
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to KingKong]: you speak spanish?
<Clan>((J.N.R)Plokoon(J.S.L)): yo tambien xd
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Darth Doody]: hi you speak spanish?
[(J.N.R)§eba(M) to Mick]: http://jose2000123.wix.com/jnrclan-latino-jk3
[Mick to (J.N.R)§eba(M)]: alright
[Mick to (J.N.R)§eba(M)]: Es activo? :)
[(J.N.R)§eba(M) to Mick]: mira la pag y dime si te gustaria entrar :D
[(J.N.R)§eba(M) to Mick]: si
[(J.N.R)§eba(M) to Mick]: en este momento
[(J.N.R)§eba(M) to Mick]: hay 3 conmigo aca xd
<Clan>((J.N.R)Plokoon(J.S.L)): donde estan
<Clan>((J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)): donde estan peleando todos
<Clan>((J.N.R)§eba(M)): yo no estoy ahi
<Clan>((J.N.R)§eba(M)): estoy cerca xd
<Clan>((J.N.R)Plokoon(J.S.L)): mierda ahi es donde me da lag
[(J.N.R)§eba(M) to Mick]: ya vengo quedate aca
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to KingKong]: you sepak spanish?
[(J.N.R)§eba(M) to (J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: aca
[(J.N.R)§eba(M) to (J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: ese de ahi es
[(J.N.R)§eba(M) to (J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: aca xd
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Padawan (11)]: hi you speak spanish?
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to (J.N.R)§eba(M)]: a ese
[(J.N.R)§eba(M) to (J.N.R)Plokoon(J.S.L)]: plo
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to (J.N.R)§eba(M)]: xd
<Clan>((J.N.R)Plokoon(J.S.L)): que
<Clan>((J.N.R)§eba(M)): te vimos y seguiste
<Clan>((J.N.R)§eba(M)): anda a la nave
(J.N.R)§eba(M): xd
[Mick to (J.N.R)§eba(M)]: Voy a estarme, unos dias, y seguramente me una
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Darth Doody]: hi you speak spanish?
[(J.N.R)§eba(M) to Mick]: osea depende como sea y te unes?
[Mick to (J.N.R)§eba(M)]: no, esq ultimamente no toy mucho en JKA
[(J.N.R)§eba(M) to Mick]: ah entiendo
[(J.N.R)§eba(M) to Mick]: ok queres venir a nuestro sv ahora?


Date: 17th January, 2015

[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: you speak spansh?
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: eres de algun pais latino ?
[lordmenem to (J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: argentina
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: q bien yo tambien xD
[lordmenem to (J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: hablas o escribis como un puertorriqueño jajaj
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: xd
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: te interesaria unirte a un clan de habla español?
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: no
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: el q estas viendo xd
[lordmenem to (J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: jnr
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: jedis de la nueva republica
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: exacto
[lordmenem to (J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: pasame ip
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: si te interesa te pasare nuestra pagina para que veas como somos
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: somos completamente distintos a jho
[lordmenem to (J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: ok dale pasamela
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: ok
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: sabes poner el historial del chat?
[lordmenem to (J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: no
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: ok es asi shift + el de la izquierda del 1
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: dime cuando te salga
[lordmenem to (J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: dale
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: listo te salio?
[lordmenem to (J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: si
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: ok
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: ahora te paso la pag
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: jose2000123.wix.com/jnrclan-latino-jk3
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Master viktor]: no thanks
[lordmenem to (J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: listo
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: bien
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: sobre nuestro sv la ip es dinamica por eso por mas q te la pase
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: cambiara
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: y no la tengo fija
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: hay en la pag sale todo lo q necesitas sabeer
[lordmenem to (J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L)]: dale en un rato entro
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: ok
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to lordmenem]: te espero
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Alex]: hi
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Alex]: you speak spanish?
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Master viktor]: hi you speak spanish?
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Master viktor]: xd
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Master viktor]: you speak spanish?
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Padawan]: k
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Padawan]: hi
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Padawan]: you speak spanish?
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Padawan]: where are you from?
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Padawan]: cual es tu pais?
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Ken]: you speak spanish?
[(J.N.R)Carlos(J.G.L) to Carlos Spicy Weinner]: you speak spanish?
You get the idea - back in January - nothing has changed.


Date: 15th November, 2015

[(J.N.R)ZUZU to star killer]: you are a sh.it
(J.N.R)ZUZU: you are a bad boy sh.it
[(J.N.R)ZUZU to star killer]: you are stupid

[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to star killer]: speak spanish?
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: speak spanish?
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: sabes hablar por privado?
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: ok xd mira apuntame a la cara y apreta u
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: Probando
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: hahaha
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: ya x
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: Hostia no lo sabía XD
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: asi nadie nos ve
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: xD
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: Llevas mucho en esto de Jedi Academy?
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: hace cuanto jugas?
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: Yo jugaba hace muuuchos años. Pero pensé que ya no quedaban servers.
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: 1 año y medio
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: xd
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: He vuelto a empezar y soy un poco malo
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: Wow
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: xD
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: año y medio sin parar?
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: si
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: bueno
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: 1 semana inactivo y nada mas xd
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: WTF jajaa
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: xD
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: Podrías enseñarme tío jajaja
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: xd
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: si pero
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: como estoy en un clan no puedo enseñar a otros
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: xd
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: quieres aprender cosas?
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: Si me enseñáis, yo perfecto jaja
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: xD
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: ok
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: te explicare como es el clan en si
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: nuestro clan es jedi
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: no aceptamos siths
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: tendras que esperar una semana
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: Ok xD
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: para tener maestro
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: cuando tengas tu maestro empezaras tu entrenamiento
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: Pero me mola más el estilo Sith
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: Ok
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: xd
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: ¿Sois Jedi o Sith?
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: aprenderas force sable y armas
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: jedis
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: Bueno, empezaré cual buen Jedi
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: xd
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: ok
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: hay 2 bandos igual para elejir soldado o jedi pero te veo como jedi
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: asi que no hace falta que eligas xd
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: Mola. ¿Roleais?
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: xd
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: quieres ser jedi o soldado?
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: Quiero ser Jedi
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: ok
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: tendras que bajarte algo
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: para comunicarnos entre todos
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: esta en nuestra pagina te la pasare
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: asi ves todo
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: jose2000123.wix.com/jnrclan-latino-jk3
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: ahi esta la pagina
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: He hecho un pantallazo. En cuanto pueda voy
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: xD
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: ok
[Razuun to (J.N.R)Seba(AM2)]: tengo la pag guardada jaja
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: xd
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: tu tag por ahora sera (J.N.R)
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: ok despues te bajas el dolby
[(J.N.R)Seba(AM2) to Razuun]: ahora yo me voy un rato xd nos vemos


I have many, many more of such examples. I skipped all the ones where JNR were flaming in both English and Spanish, and were caught out laming.

Yours is a clan of lamers, flamers and recruiters.
Your Carlos was training JNR members on our server on how to recruit.
At no time did they say "Hey stop - we're not a scumbag clan which does crap like that".
No but instead they also recruited too.
You just have to accept it, (J.N.R) is plainly not welcome.
 #137269  by Frog
 
:>
 #137335  by SWAG
 
Ahhhh he is silenced - the evidence does not lie my friend. Be warned....
 #137342  by Frog
 
SWAG wrote:Ahhhh he is silenced - the evidence does not lie my friend. Be warned....
- Jawfin said, waiting for SWAG to reply.
 #137344  by jawfin
 
If it is all the same, please stop posting off-topic on Carlos thread. Although the decision has been rendered the only reason why this is not locked is so he won't start a new thread in an attempt to convince us otherwise.
 #137355  by SWAG
 
Sorry Jawfin - just trying to be more active on here so I am forgiven by KR and can be unbanned myself lol
 #138153  by CarlosJG
 
hi i am a founder of the clan J.N.R and I'm here to solve the problem of banned, First we are not a clan steals laming members, you have no idea what we went through with the clan, give examples: other clans people came and robbed us were very few live in the clan and in that where we did not have time to get people to stick with the clan, the only salvation was to go to recruit, and we think that in these servers called: ..................... . they filled with people for the reason of being first on the list and if you do not believe me visit the rules page of my clan that this all translated into English by the moment.thanks to read the message and excuse my mistakes in English
 #138154  by jawfin
 
Healthy advice: build and protect your server as everyone else does. Advertise it correctly on places like jkhub according to their rules and if you feel so inclined. Also, learn how to name it, for crying out loud.

No doubt you are the Carlos I am quoting from the logs - unless you now have 3 Carlos' in your clan.... You yourself have been recruiting from KR for YEARS - so don't give me any of that bs you're so full of. KR have never ever recruited from your server, ever, and you know it.

Honestly, you disgust me - which is not as easy thing to do, so congratulations.

What's the point of having rules if you don't apply them?

Recruiting is the lowest form of action you can take. We've spent a *lot* of time, money, and personal skills to build this server. Recruiting is direct theft of the result of our work. Its the scummiest thing anyone can do. So cheerio scum, I am locking this thread.

Problem solved.