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Exactly how far does this go???

PostPosted:Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:19 am
by Sol
Well since I'm banned I might as well lay it all out:

I'm banned because i chose to stand up to a troll by the name of Loxx, who has broken just about every rule in the book as well as having one of his friends or himself ddos the server or players on a few occasions when he does not get his way.

This issue started nearly 3 weeks ago when he was trolling another player because they had refused to duel him on base (I'm pretty sure some of you remember that incident), and from there multiple incidents have come from that one incident including laming and trolling other players, I know I'm no angel and yeah i own up to my end of the issue however it was for good cause and to give that nutjob a taste of his own medicine , now for the last incident which i am banned for again this involved loxx but strangely enough he is allowed to flame, troll, and lame without any punishments or repercussions whatsoever. and kenjiro and samurai i apologize for the way i had acted however lately it has seemed like loxx has immunity and full run of the server since no one will stand to him or even attempt to stop him for whatever reason, still no excuse for telling you guys to mind your own business and reconnecting each time i was kicked , but it does become problematic when one such as loxx is given a free pass and fully abuses it to the highest extent and everyone else has to suffer for it.

I've never had any issues with you guys so hopefully this can be remedied , but the question remains , how far does this go with this situation and why are you guys allowing loxx to continue the troll carnival on your server????

ps: if you need screen caps and a list of witnesses talk to joltz and BlackXEyes , seen the whole issue from start to now.

Sol.

Re: Exactly how far does this go???

PostPosted:Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:49 am
by loxx1
Aww :'( you troll, lame and flame me for weeks then get silenced and kicked and recon out of punishment then cry and post on the forums :(:( but it's all my fault :(:(

Re: Exactly how far does this go???

PostPosted:Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:24 am
by reftor
I'm by no means here to choose sides but as far as I'm concerned the -[KR]- admin to not seem to get on the trolls for like Solarus said flame, troll and lame. As a clan leader myself I know how rules work and the way you "-[KR]- admins" are handling this is wrong. You don't seem to care anymore is what it looks like to me. You just kind of let anyone run around and mess up the fun for everyone else. I've even seen lamers lame next to an admin and the admin wont do anything just stand idly by while the people at the server are victims. I'm not here to be mean or sound mean but if something doesnt change with the situation with the trolls then the "-[KR]-" server wont recover if you let this keep going. I've been playing at -[KR]- since around late 2013-present and I've seen the "admin" change. You're not the same you seem to just let anything happen while you watch it fall in front of your eyes. Its time to wake up and deal with this situation or you will not recover.

Re: Exactly how far does this go???

PostPosted:Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:15 am
by Yama
yeah it is kinda you provoke and prod and push until people finally lose their cool and break the rules. The difference is Sol Loxx gives you enough rope to hang yourself but you do the hanging, Regardless of what Loxx says and does gives you no right to break the rules at will. Loxx is very smart he won't break the rules when an admin is present. However you feel the need to totally ignore the rules when an admin is present due to the perceived right you feel you have on your side. We don't care what the reasons are, break the rules they will be enforced regardless of what (excuse) reason you think you have. You can sing all day long about what Loxx did previously but unless we are there we cannot comment on it.

As for you loxx pull your damn head in. Stop causing trouble, We are not a skill based base server stop treating us as thus. Leave our visitors in peace please. Understand from this point onward I and few others will be treating you as hostile and responding according to behavior.

@ref
As you are not a KR member you have no concept of what you are talking about and this statement is entirely wrong on so many levels. As a 'Clan Leader' yourself I'm sure you can see why this comment is inappropriate.

As a clan leader myself I know how rules work and the way you "-[KR]- admins" are handling this is wrong. You don't seem to care anymore is what it looks like to me.

Re: Exactly how far does this go???

PostPosted:Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:32 am
by cf.Steak
For a week, any time I've seen BlackXEyes, or Sol com into a server after loxx, it's been to instigate and harass him, in an attempt to bait him into something. Even Joltz joins in, on occasion. Honestly, BlackXEyes, Sol, and Joltz, seem to be the three most like-minded individuals, paired with a victim mentality. It literally doesn't stop, and they're so completely unaware of the world around them, that they just spam petty insults, and look incredibly foolish while doing it. Many new players have gotten onto the server while BlackXEyes, or Sol are on one of their pseudo-"intellectual" rants about lamers, and it completely turns the potential server population away because of how terribly off-putting it is. It's as if they don't come there to play, or even just add to any conversation. It's simply just complaining, and looking to cause trouble.
The admins are fine and take care of what they see, or can handle, from what I can tell. There hasn't been an instance that, that I've seen, that they have let get out of hand. But any server is going to have its admin downtime, because they're players too.
I don't mean to weigh in on anything with no evidence. Though, thus far, the three that I mentioned, have contributed to the only annoyance I've had during my time within the -KR- server.

Re: Exactly how far does this go???

PostPosted:Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:45 pm
by Sol
Yama , I've already owned up to my end of the problem , no need to beat a dead horse. , let me know when my ban period is up.

Sol

Re: Exactly how far does this go???

PostPosted:Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:40 pm
by Blaboobee
reftor wrote:I'm by no means here to choose sides but as far as I'm concerned the -[KR]- admin to not seem to get on the trolls for like Solarus said flame, troll and lame. As a clan leader myself I know how rules work and the way you "-[KR]- admins" are handling this is wrong. You don't seem to care anymore is what it looks like to me. You just kind of let anyone run around and mess up the fun for everyone else. I've even seen lamers lame next to an admin and the admin wont do anything just stand idly by while the people at the server are victims. I'm not here to be mean or sound mean but if something doesnt change with the situation with the trolls then the "-[KR]-" server wont recover if you let this keep going. I've been playing at -[KR]- since around late 2013-present and I've seen the "admin" change. You're not the same you seem to just let anything happen while you watch it fall in front of your eyes. Its time to wake up and deal with this situation or you will not recover.
Admins aren't going to have their eyes glued to the screen the entire time they're logged on. That's why they provide the opportunity to report players with screenshots. If you care enough about someone breaking a rule, it's extremely easy to build a solid case against them and present it to KR's leadership.

Admins also understand that dishing out punishment for every single rule broken will inevitably result in a frustrated, difficult, and hostile playerbase.

That being said, by no means is KR lax on enforcing their rules. Admins do their job. They punish laming when they see it, and they firmly warm those who do things like circumventing chat filter, harassing others, etc.

I don't think KR is in any special predicament because of how they're enforcing their rules. There's lots of players and secondary infractions like "toxicity" are bound to slip between the cracks more than once or twice.

Re: Exactly how far does this go???

PostPosted:Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:30 pm
by MasterM
Blaboobee kind of hit it on the head here. KR admins can only take action on things that they see, and they aren't spending every second of their time monitoring for rule breakers. Some things are going to slip through, but if you just report the situation to an admin who's on at the time, they will watch out for additional issues.

As for your ban Sol, that will be on whoever banned you (presumably Jawfin) to decide when that will end.

Also you mentioned screenshots - do you have any? Screenshots are the best way of resolving a situation after the fact.

Re: Exactly how far does this go???

PostPosted:Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:54 pm
by Sol
MasterM wrote:Blaboobee kind of hit it on the head here. KR admins can only take action on things that they see, and they aren't spending every second of their time monitoring for rule breakers. Some things are going to slip through, but if you just report the situation to an admin who's on at the time, they will watch out for additional issues.

As for your ban Sol, that will be on whoever banned you (presumably Jawfin) to decide when that will end.

Also you mentioned screenshots - do you have any? Screenshots are the best way of resolving a situation after the fact.




As I said in my initial post ask joltz or blackxeyes , the screen caps I had were accidentally deleted a few nights ago.

Re: Exactly how far does this go???

PostPosted:Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:33 pm
by jawfin
Um, are you sure you're banned? No-one has posted any ban on you, and your IP is not on any ban list.
You may just want to try to connect again: -
/connect 192.223.29.244
The admins posting on this thread have answered the issues succinctly.

Re: Exactly how far does this go???

PostPosted:Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:29 am
by Joltz
So i dont usually get into this garbage but i have just a few things to say about it. First the only provoking here always starts with loxx and/or one of his troll buddies. Normally i would treat them like a fart in the wind but sometimes there are special cases. This is one of them. The amount of garbage i and plenty of others have had to deal with from these people is absolutely ridiculous. Trying to place blame on both sides in this specific situation is completely absurd. Choosing to defend oneself does not automatically make you a provoker. I cant speak on others behalf but this most definitely is the case for me.

Re: Exactly how far does this go???

PostPosted:Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:51 pm
by aSittingSith
+1 Blaboobee; +1 Loxx. Admins on KR do their job... this is why trolls like me are banned. #Savantout

Re: Exactly how far does this go???

PostPosted:Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:05 pm
by Kirito
You guys do realize /ignore is a thing right?

I personally need to back up steak here. I've seen Loxx targeted by the 3 mentioned by steak and I've personally called you guys out on it. I'm talking back to back to back days.... now weeks of the same crap. You guys get overly offended and take it to the next level.... from what i see loxx is tryin to just have a few laughs and ya... he jokes and smack talks, but frankly this a video game(what online game at that). If you guys can't handle that i suggest u use the /ignore function.

When anyone is out of line we do discuss it with them, I'm sorry we don't do it in public chat and cause a scene. You do understand these conflicts ruin the environment?