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JAWA's Refusal to reconise (JAWA)CouncilSalazar

PostPosted:Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:05 pm
by MadonLightstorm
KR, I Suggest you disband your ally with JAWA clan, I Am (JAWA)CouncilSalazar, JAWA is so corrupt, they refuse to acknowledge one of there own, every chance I tried to tell them they, make up stories how am fake and not Geza , right now they are going around tell lies to its members, they even ran my account as 17th council member and HOF as propaganda, I have the messages to tell , they obsoletely refuse to acknowledgement of me, I am not fake, the real reason why I created fake name called Geza, cause I was like 16 years old when I joined there clan, I didn't not want to be known by my real name at the time, other things they told me was, I was to be made ally or stolen or recruited or used, all the things in that profile I remember all of those, I was also the one who wrote the letter in my profile, now I tried leave OrzHov, cause they demoted me to low rank, which I didn't like.

another thing, when I was younger , they didn't even ask for picture of me or ask for voice recognition, each time I came back they have banned me or kicked me away, I just had JAWA member say I tried to sneak in to clan,
we've been playing this weird game for long time now, I've tried to tell them I also tried to speak to them, tell them my side of story for years, I was gonna reveal to them who I was.

they are running my profile as propaganda, they even banned my account to Salazar, they though me made me the villain , making it sound like am bad guy, when its Silink and Mario and Nightwing.

they running a ponzi scheme, its sick, what they doing to me, my last order is you drop ally's with JAWA, they are not what they seem at this point.

its bad enough they run this message 'we've changed'

they haven't changed at all, its propaganda, they are sending out.

one thing I noticed when I was a app at jawa, how every Jawa member seemed subjugated and oppressed, like they always seemed always seemed happy, there's some major subrogation happening at JAWA.

also another thing I like to mention, over the years, I met about 4-7 other JAWA Council members, they all say same thing I did, one they either came back and JAWA was not what it was to be, other said 'silink is insane' that's why I left, some said they we're pushed out by its own council, or they we're driven off or turned on by its own members, in my case I was told this sentence : you will be recruited by other clans or made ally or used or stolen, now orzhov stole me, cause they threatened me, so I went along with it, another common word silink and Mario told me 'are you pretending to be my friend Salazar' 'I said yes', cause I thought it was joke, I didn't know they turn on me, again I was like 16 years years old and didn't know English very well, so I didn't understand what they said or meant.

Re: JAWA's Refusal to reconise (JAWA)CouncilSalazar

PostPosted:Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:54 pm
by Gollum
may salazar's rule reign supreme.

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#freesalazar

Re: JAWA's Refusal to reconise (JAWA)CouncilSalazar

PostPosted:Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:53 pm
by MadonLightstorm
Geza is not is real name, his real name is : Evan Jay Ashopenace, Geza was derived from temples of geza, yes I do remember the NJO vs Jawa, I was being showcased to NJO at the time, that letter in the message , it wasn't letter to get Jawa follow others to that clan it was sabotaged by myself to get out of it, was more of letter to inspire myself and I left clue in it to let me know it was me , here it was:



(JAWA) is no longer a clan but a group of slaves following one man’s will, not questioning if he is wrong or not. How could this be? Why can’t they fight against it? Why don’t they do something? Why can’t they see the other path? Why can’t they see that door? … Because their eyes are closed. Because they can’t see that path. Because they can’t see that door. Darkness hides it from their eyes. What is this darkness? This darkness is only an illusion, which fooles people minds and closes their eyes. How … how is this illusion there? What is this illusion which hides the door? What makes this illusion? Its friendship. The slaves are friends. They don’t think about whats going around their area, they do what that person tells them to do, and they only think about their friends. This may not sound so bad. But they don’t realise, that they are just puppets. They do not have freedom. They don’t understand what this word means anymore. However, the blindness can be cured. It will only be cured if the person really believes int hat path. If he does, the darkness begins to break. And your eyes will be cleared. You can truly see the path, you can see the door. You get closer … closer … closer to it and you can clearly see it now. There it is. I now understand whats behind the door. You want to open it, go through. But something stops you. Its the thought of leaving your friends. You want to be with them. You want to help them, you want to protect them. There are three things to do. The first itt go back, and help to open their eyes, show the path to them. The second is to be strong, leave and don’t look back. The third one is when you go back, and let the darkness, let the illusion continue to infect your mind. A hard decision, what must be made. You go near the door. You touch it. You feel happy, you feel like you are free. You open it. But something is wrong. It … is … getting darker and darker. You look back, and you see the darkness swallow your friends. It is coming for you, you can feel it in your bones. You have to escape, go through. The illusion comes after you, it wants to infect your mind again. You close the door ans lock it. You cry because of sadness. You left your friends. A piece of your heart was left behind. But you couldn’t help them. The darness was stronger. You keep crying. But you can’t help anymore. You don’t want to go back, you don’t want to live that way. The time passes, and you get stronger. Some day, you will get strong enough to fight and kill the darkness, and your friends eyes will open. The wind will bring fresh air, the sun will shine, you can feel the warmness. You are happy, happy that you are with your friends again, and have freedom.
- Salazar



look at all the miss-spelled letters, I was about 16 years old at the time, with bad writing, I had just come off being kicked out school, I used a lot of 'S' letters,



Quite quickly after this was discovered, Salazar tried to double clan and tried to rejoin (JAWA) under a different name whilst leading Orzhov, he made several rude comments during this time... he was quickly spotted by SiLink and was quickly rejected and was told to focus on his own clan instead of causing issues in (JAWA).

reason why I did this, cause I had found they we're all trolls and stuff, so I consistently tried to come back as : Eye & Caedas

yes I was intercepted by silink, I thought I could come back make things right, like build more something better, then... Orzhov, which deducted me to low rank, I wasn't too thrilled at that, that's why I tried to comeback to Jawa.



Who? Salazar, that's who. He joined in 2006 and went on to become a council member very quickly.... he left suddenly, made another clan called Orzhov (Which unfortunately didn't last long), began calling me a slave master and every member a slave, then rejoined the clan under a secret identity... Then poof, vanished, gone. So, why is he getting Hall of Fame and why now? Because he is our dirty little secret in the halls, the dark room that not many know about... he once had it and he is the only person in our history to have it ever removed. It is one of many regrets that I have been carrying with me for some time now, and after going over some nostalgia with Podoplodik and Helena, she suggested that I put him back in and mend old bridges... and she is right. Whilst he did some quite nasty things at the end of his membership and after, he still contributed a lot at the time and earned himself his entry into the hall of fame. I feel it is only right that he is given this back, even though we no longer have any form of contact with him any more.

-SiLink

I was his dirty little secret, because I was a Super Dueler, I had skill and stuff that out-matched the opponent in TFFA, I was his gem, so I stayed away for years, in tell I became memory of the past and nothing less.



when you said I was in the clan, I had to think about that, you saw my picture and my first clan, that I put in the post.



I Hope for Second chance for better image of myself, but... I dunno if I should come back a Salazar or Madon Lightstorm, I came back 9 years afterwards, I'd found Jawa was miss-using its power, so I made sure they do the right thing.

Super Dueler Salazar

6th February 2006 <-- suspicious

February 25, 2004 [13 year(s), 37 days ago] (RJK)

Controversy

When leaving (JAWA) to create Orzhov, Salazar made a document calling (JAWA) members slaves following one mans will (SiLink), he used the document to try and get people to join Orzhov and leave (JAWA) which failed... this document was intended to be kept secret between Salazar and his friends however it was leaked and all the clan members at the time found it.

How does one aquire such docement. with out someone on the in-side, the person had asked may I have the docement , who gave it to the person I did, cause I knew it would fail, or flopp, I personally didn't like Orzhov, they we're in-fighting most them, so I diseapered into history becoming : BlackXEyes / Madon Lightstorm.

I also treated every jawa member with respect and honour , I would never treat them bad.

Great skill in a clan match
(JAWA) vs New Jedi Order 14/04/06

only Super Gamer shows this type of skill and wins it



Writing: 3 out 5 (I didn't have the best writing in history)

Caedas : (JAWA) 17th August 2007

Eye : Joined (JAWA) 19th July 2006 - Eye left the clan after the merger with BBA failed at the end of July.



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Consular

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On the 19th July 2006, Eye was assigned the rank of Consular (light side) by SiLink.


night wing : This is a really confusing PM. What are you on about?

Madon Lightstorm to Nightwing : am just telling you who that man was back then, am torn between both worlds, Salazar and BlackXEyes (Madon Lightstorm), should I come back as Salazar or just be Madon Lightstorm aka BlackXEyes.

cause it'd be like 'harry potter comes to hogwarts' , should I live up to my name as Salazar and reclaim my title, or just be Madon Lightstorm,

night wing to madon lightstorm : You sound like a complete nutter to be honest with you and I'm really not happy that you're either pretending to be Salazar, or that you've attempted to hide who you are from the clan.

Honestly at this point, I'm not confident in you applying here at this time after this message.

I'm going to discuss this with the council and get their perspective, but I think it may be best for you to withdraw your app.

madon lightstorm to nightwing : I had hid myself for years, I just didn't know if that was okay, by using a fake name named geza, I've been trying to tell you guys this for years.

night wing to madon lightstorm : It comes down to this now, we simply can't trust you or anything you say. This creates a problem, because we need to be able to trust our members and what they bring to the clan. You've apparently lied and kept things from us and started an application process under an assumed name, only to reveal that you're apparently a member who was the subject of issues in the past.

madon lightstorm to nightwing : that was years ago, I just wanna start a new life, show some leeway of that case, just thought I'd let you know.

didn't know it'd effect you guys this way, I thought by waitin' a lot of years, you guys would forget who I was, accept me back in, this has been thorn in my heart for years.

I wanna start a new one with Jawa, let a old name to rest , create new one.

as Madon Lightstorm

and let a old warrior of past to rest and come back as phoenix, reborn and better, I won't let you guys down.

night wing to madon lightstorm : Do you see what kind of position you've put yourself in? You've started out a potential application by generating a wall of mistrust that simply can't be undone at this point.

madon lightstorm to night wing: I didn't even know, In tell I looked at the old member profiles, And Saw my old Profiles in there, those profiles are like 2006-2008 , I had found those profiles after I had created Madon Lightstorm, I technically didn't even know those existed, in tell I looked, I had looked after you said 'have you been in clan before ?' , which caused me to look at old profiles, when I found myself, I felt had guilty , thought I'd go ahead and tell you, I was blind sided, which I did my own investigation on myself, on where I was between 2004-2008, I really had to think what I was back then.

am sorry :Reallysad2:

I didn't know , am sorry, its been years, I had forgotten :Reallysad2:

at first I didn't recognise them, tell I did thorough look at it, I was dam, I shot myself in the foot, I'd better tell nightwing.


nightwing to madon lightstorm : To be brutally honest with you, I don't for a second believe you're Salazar and you're sounding like you have no idea what you're going on about. You would need pretty strong proof to convince us otherwise and copying and pasting things from a wiki, or typing up something isn't going to cut it.

So you can either come clean and confirm what I'm thinking, or keep with your story. It's up to you at this point, but It's starting to get late here and I really don't have time for this right now.

madon lightstorm to nightwing : I didn't know it'd effect you guys this way, I didn't even know those profiles existed, am not trying to be nasty or harsh, am just telling you, you need to terminate my application, I know the rules, I respect that, am sorry, and am not pretending, I recognise those writing.

well...I guess I'll live in tornment and despair and heart broken, you've brought me sorrow.

Old Warrior Salazar lives in pieces.

am actually crying :cry:

Re: JAWA's Refusal to reconise (JAWA)CouncilSalazar

PostPosted:Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:57 pm
by MadonLightstorm
also here's what gareki said to me after this event with nightwing:

gareki to blackxeyes aka madon lightstorm:

I made you artwork in hope of you liking it and using it for your wiki profile. But practice is practice for me. Honestly I don't care if the picture goes to the worst slug on earth as long as I get my work done and I'm happy with it, as long as it gives me experience and perspective. I've had my chance to contribute with artwork, there was nothing personal ever to this beside me wanting to get to know a new member joining. I accept your apology for wasting my time, if you can call it wasting. Honestly I think it was an experience among others, making your picture. I'm just an artist with a passion to create, there is nothing more than that into it.

What comes to the failure of your application, I don't know a lot about that. I just know you are fake by what I've been told by trustworthy people. What a shame if you tried to infiltrate JAWA or cause any other kind of trouble. To be honest, I had good thoughts about you. Liars don't get far in this game, that's a hint I can give. Especially when it comes to JAWA, by what I can say. I don't know if you have any contact with Geptun/King guy from the server or what all of this is about. I guess you maybe don't care for the disappointment you cause. But hey, roads cross and then they spread to different directions again. Was a pleasure working with you.

Re: JAWA's Refusal to reconise (JAWA)CouncilSalazar

PostPosted:Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:20 pm
by MadonLightstorm
when Nightwing denied my app he said this :

As you know, your application is being denied. I explained why in our long PM earlier this evening. It's just a shame you broke our trust and lied on your application.

If we can't trust a word you say, then there is really no point in continuing this application.

Farewell.

Re: JAWA's Refusal to reconise (JAWA)CouncilSalazar

PostPosted:Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:42 pm
by MadonLightstorm
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this is how I feel right now.

Re: JAWA's Refusal to reconise (JAWA)CouncilSalazar

PostPosted:Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:43 pm
by Gollum
dude i feel you. sometimes people just don't understand

Re: JAWA's Refusal to reconise (JAWA)CouncilSalazar

PostPosted:Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:55 pm
by Frog
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Re: JAWA's Refusal to reconise (JAWA)CouncilSalazar

PostPosted:Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:55 pm
by Key
what an absolute tragedy this is

Re: JAWA's Refusal to reconise (JAWA)CouncilSalazar

PostPosted:Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:57 pm
by Falcon
Madon - I've warned you multiple times about spamming our forums. This is now the second time I've had to take action with this behavior - you are silenced here again.

With regards to your topic - we will keep our own council on our allies. I'm sorry to hear you have had a bad experience with JAWA but this is something you'll need to take up with them. There is little we can do about it.

Re: JAWA's Refusal to reconise (JAWA)CouncilSalazar

PostPosted:Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:41 am
by Yama
starting to worry about you mads. I mean you have always been a beer short of a six pack. Recently man you seem to have dialled your crazy up full tilt. Take a breath brother!

oh and its recognise not reconise

Re: JAWA's Refusal to reconise (JAWA)CouncilSalazar

PostPosted:Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:28 am
by jawfin
Due to your contempt of KR and our forums by not accepting the correction made by Falcon by attempting to create yet another account I have chosen to ban your account.
This means if you also managed to get banned on server you will have no means to appeal due to your burning off this avenue of doing so.
Whilst I do question some of the newer members which JAWA have accepted it is evidently a massive credit to them that they denied you.

Re: JAWA's Refusal to reconise (JAWA)CouncilSalazar

PostPosted:Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:51 am
by jawfin
I have decided to lift this ban at your request.
Considering the level of stupidity (that may be considered an offensive word, but by definition its merely the opposite of wisdom) of creating yet ANOTHER forum account to get around this ban, I will lift it. It has been pointed out to me that this time you did it on the seriously deluded advice of a KR member. *Sigh* next we'll be telling lamers to recon to get out of sleep - off topic though, so ban lifted.

Don't spam. Don't report anything you cannot directly prove. (And proof is *not* "read the logs and you will see for yourself" - proof is something *you* provide.)