[Akimoto]

I'm looking into buying a new computer. (From scratch)

Unfortunately I do not got enough experience "finding" the pieces that fits. I have no idea if piece A is compatible with piece B~ (etc.)

What I am looking for is a web-site / service / guides that can help me find my ultimate gaming rig. Preferably the ultimate gaming rig to day's date which is NOT 100% new and super-expensive. It could be 1 year old and still better than my current computer.

And I do not wish to risk buying, say; a motherboard that does not fit with the RAM i add etc. etc.

Just posting it here in case anyone know anything. (And no, I'm not paying 3,999$ for alienware! ...yet.)

I will build the computer myself. I just need to find the components!
Any help would be appreciated.
If I had to set any price class... ~1000-3000$

What I will buy:
-750W Powergenerator or whatever they are called

-Motherboard capable of doing 3 graphic cards, 16-32GB RAM, Overclockable (should last a few years! and even more with EXCELLENT COOLING SYSTEM)

-3 Graphic cards (with connector-thingeys that goes around all 3!)

-EXCELLENT COOLING SYSTEM (It may be as loud as a chopper, 99fans, etc., , and I wouldn't care!! If it's cold, I'm cool.

-Sound Card (Got it, not needed. ..Unless somehow X-FI is not compatible with the new motherboard)

-Fast connection between HDD and MOTHERBOARD! (for some reason I always get 5.3 Vista score in HDD speed thingey (out of 6!) How can I improve this?
Thanks in advance!

-New computer shell (what's it called anyway? I have like 3, and all of them are horrible! I NEED GOOD COOLING!)



Copy pasted from: http://forums.filefront.com/tech-discus ... abble.html

More forums = More people = Bigger chance of anyone caring~
I'll add more info if I can come up with anything. Bed time

[jawfin]

http://www.falcon-nw.com/
woot, beats falcon to the punch, hehehe

[Akimoto]

http://www.falcon-nw.com/
woot, beats falcon to the punch, hehehe

*checks site* omfg looks awesome.. not to get familiar with the site and all.

Wow this sucks. No pricing, no links, no shopping cart, no NOTHING!!


information added:

If you wanted a fast system, you'd probably be best putting 2 grand in the bank for future needs, and using $1,000 for a near super-gaming rig that can max out most/all games, and still be chugging in a year or two, and when things start slowing down, you'll be able to upgrade or build a new rig.

THAT is what I wish to do. Kinda. However I hear my current computer (motherboard and all) is futile/old @@


Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.100218-0019)

System Manufacturer: XFX68L

System Model: XFX Nforce 680i LT

BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.4GHz

Memory: 8190MB RAM

Page File: 4982MB used, 11595MB available

DirectX Version: DirectX 11




Graphic cards: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT & 9600 GT


How can I improve this? lol
Lately it have been sucking more and my old games tell me my computer suck @@ (games which I could play on highest quality, recommend me to play in lowest! wtf?)

[Chantelle]

You're looking for a mothboard to do 16GB or 32? thats very wasted, but if you are looking future proof then I suggest you build a system around Intel Core i5. Since a motherboard for Core 2 Duo wont support newer processors

The i5 Core 750 would be a good one.

ASUS P7P55D PRO iP55 Socket LGA 1156 or similar is a motherboard that supports several GPUs 16 GB of ram that SATA , Hell you can even RAID 0 if you wanted too.

For what you want does require a heavy price on the motherboard.

as for GPU this is where it gets pricey.. Personally I would only go nVidia. I have mostly been nVidia but have been ATI the last few times and am definateley going back to nVidia.

THe motherboard above suits both ATI and nVidia, Fill ye boots on the GPUs, depends on how much money you have left over.

Case well again that is something you can spend little or loads on them

as for sites maybe check out toms hardware look at some of the bench tests they did and see what specs / builds they did.

[Chantelle]

Memory: 8190MB RAM

Page File: 4982MB used, 11595MB available

DirectX Version: DirectX 11




Graphic cards: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT & 9600 GT


How can I improve this? lol
Lately it have been sucking more and my old games tell me my computer suck @@ (games which I could play on highest quality, recommend me to play in lowest! wtf?)

Looking at this theres a few things wrong,

First your page file is wrong it should be 1.5 the size of your RAM lower limited to 3 times the size on upper limit.

the GPUs are you saying this is SLI?? does that even work?? It shoudlnt do and probably wont work properly which may be what I am about tro say next


Games which run or ran at higest settings and res which barely work now in lower settings isnt just wear and tear..

There is something wrong there, probably a dirver or windows has been messed up badly.. without the details it is difficult to say but it could be you're trying to run incompatible cards in SLI..

[Akimoto]

Memory: 8190MB RAM

Page File: 4982MB used, 11595MB available

DirectX Version: DirectX 11




Graphic cards: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT & 9600 GT


How can I improve this? lol
Lately it have been sucking more and my old games tell me my computer suck @@ (games which I could play on highest quality, recommend me to play in lowest! wtf?)

Looking at this theres a few things wrong,

First your page file is wrong it should be 1.5 the size of your RAM lower limited to 3 times the size on upper limit.

the GPUs are you saying this is SLI?? does that even work?? It shoudlnt do and probably wont work properly which may be what I am about tro say next


Games which run or ran at higest settings and res which barely work now in lower settings isnt just wear and tear..

There is something wrong there, probably a dirver or windows has been messed up badly.. without the details it is difficult to say but it could be you're trying to run incompatible cards in SLI..

I haven't changed anything with the hardware. Only software...
Also I just copied dxdiag info. I didn't write any of it.

Anyhow, gonna try reformatting computer ,reinstalling drivers, then perhaps reformatting again just to be sure. ...After I get a new HDD. My old one died. (currently using a temp 40GB hdd!)

[Chantelle]

Can you clarify what your gpu setup is?

You're not SLI them two together are you?? which one are you using?

I assume it is the 8800 (as its probably the faster)

[Akimoto]

Can you clarify what your gpu setup is?

You're not SLI them two together are you?? which one are you using?

I assume it is the 8800 (as its probably the faster)

I got SLI! (If that means the connector thing between gpu's, and gpus mean graphic cards, idk. I'm still a novice with computers!)) <.<

8800 as main and linked with 9600

[Melissa]

Your system isn’t actually all that bad (apart from your SLI which is a mess)

Turbo nutters will always tell you to get the latest kit and part with your money, these people buy the latest graphics card for top £££$$$$ then 3 montsh later get the next one just so there games run 5 fps faster.. More money than sense.. However to get a fresh release of life for your computer remove the GPUs and get a new one (singular would be fine but any dual card config use teh same config)

Yes your computer isn’t the latest but the processor and ram should be able to run most stuff pretty well..

The hard drive needs replacing as you know

However the biggest worry is as pointed out the GPU arrangement.. you have two different graphics cards these shouldn’t bridge together in SLI?? That is not supported at all and will not only will run at the slower speeds but they don’t support each others technology. Assuming its TRYING to run SLi anyway.

It would be better to remove the 9600Gt card.

For your problem I would suggest getting a friend with hands on experience building a PC to help you, more often than not building a complex system isn’t just plug and screw it all in and power on hey presto, you will often come against niggly issues which can tax you.

To me your current system is setup badly, which will be fully responsible for your massive degraded performance in gaming, as Chan said, same games/ hardware don’t go from brilliant performing to awful without a reason.


You could spent 1000s on a new system and make the same mistake and still have degraded performance

[Akimoto]

Your system isn’t actually all that bad (apart from your SLI which is a mess)

Turbo nutters will always tell you to get the latest kit and part with your money, these people buy the latest graphics card for top £££$$$$ then 3 montsh later get the next one just so there games run 5 fps faster.. More money than sense.. However to get a fresh release of life for your computer remove the GPUs and get a new one (singular would be fine but any dual card config use teh same config)

Yes your computer isn’t the latest but the processor and ram should be able to run most stuff pretty well..

The hard drive needs replacing as you know

However the biggest worry is as pointed out the GPU arrangement.. you have two different graphics cards these shouldn’t bridge together in SLI?? That is not supported at all and will not only will run at the slower speeds but they don’t support each others technology. Assuming its TRYING to run SLi anyway.

It would be better to remove the 9600Gt card.

For your problem I would suggest getting a friend with hands on experience building a PC to help you, more often than not building a complex system isn’t just plug and screw it all in and power on hey presto, you will often come against niggly issues which can tax you.

To me your current system is setup badly, which will be fully responsible for your massive degraded performance in gaming, as Chan said, same games/ hardware don’t go from brilliant performing to awful without a reason.


You could spent 1000s on a new system and make the same mistake and still have degraded performance

Well, I've just taken apart my computer piece by piece. To clean a bit, and finally REMOVED those annoying blue æ*!"#¤*!"# lights. They are irrelevant to my computers performance. lol.

Anyhows, I've made sure the 2 graphic cards are compatible. and they are. Tested with and without (when i first got them).

My "theory" why my computer went "low graphics" is old drivers, bad cooling and slutty programs.

Currently waiting for a new heatsink and hdd. Then I will reinstall all drivers (again), and make sure everything seem to work before I install more. I am also looking for good programs to "test" my computer. Preferably free ones. Or expensive ones, just give me the name and i'll "take care" of the rest.

[Chantelle]

Trust me when I say this,

An 8800 GT and a 9600 GT will NOT work together properly in SLI,

It may appear to look and work okay but it will not. They don’t support it and the two chips are different generations.

Nvidia have been clear they do not support or expect this to work, they said SLi requires identical chipsets, some bastrardisation might be giving you something to work but I am sure you wont have anything like you would if you had 2 x 9600 or 2 x 8800.. the 9600 is pretty redundant.

Check it out here

http://www.slizone.com/page/slizone_faq.html



As for bench testing look at 3D mark 2006 (there probably is newer ones)

They are free and good ways to bench test your PC..

[Chantelle]

Doing a bit more thought into it.. What you probably have it two GPU outputs for dual monitors..

They wont work in SLI configuration

Unless you are running a 2nd monitor the 9600 will be redundant

[Akimoto]

Doing a bit more thought into it.. What you probably have it two GPU outputs for dual monitors..

They wont work in SLI configuration

Unless you are running a 2nd monitor the 9600 will be redundant

Ahh.... thanks alot for the information
I guess I'll buy another 8800 GT (so I wont have to spend XXXX money on a new graphic card), and swap the 9600 one!

And I am using 2 monitors! Im planning to get a 3rd in the future~

[Akimoto]

Doing a bit more thought into it.. What you probably have it two GPU outputs for dual monitors..

They wont work in SLI configuration

Unless you are running a 2nd monitor the 9600 will be redundant

Ahh.... thanks alot for the information
I will then remember that for the next time i buy a graphic card. And buy 2~

And I am using 2 monitors! Im planning to get a 3rd in the future~

[~LK~]

Yea.. running SLI with an 8800 and a 9600 shouldnt be possible.. at least without some problems, or at least running them might be possible, but not in true SLI.

Here are acouple sites you can try for parts...

http://www.tigerdirect.com/

http://www.newegg.com/

Both places usually have some good deals... good luck!

[Chantelle]

Well as you can see most graphics cards have a dual head so you can run two monitors off them anyway that way just use your same card as the SLI only.. just to remove any chance of it not working properly

Yeah go to nvidia and grab the latest driver though. might make an large difference.

That should give your PC gaming life some time yet to be honest then you can think about starting fresh in later.

[Melissa]

If and when you come to buy any computer stuff aki might be worth you posting what vendor sites you can buy from. New egg / ebuyer or similar you might not be able to buy from.

[Akimoto]

Well...

http://www.komplett.no (Norwegian)
http://www.netshop.no (Norwegian)
http://www.ebay.co.uk (ONLY MOST TRUSTED SELLERS)
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I did a computer test.. I got... ~1000 in score My friend have like 2800!
The month I get a job, I will get a car lisence. The 2nd month, I will get ... ultimate (yet safe, not too expensive) computer parts!

Lots of thanks for all help so far

[RVCA]

I miss the days when hardware excited me... maybe when there's a breakthrough in quantum computing and it becomes commercial, I'll be trilled once more.

[Akimoto]

I miss the days when hardware excited me... maybe when there's a breakthrough in quantum computing and it becomes commercial, I'll be trilled once more.

Well, we've just barely scratched the surface of "liquid" computers lol... that will make our current computer look like old handheld calculators in comparison.

...Then again quantum computers would make anything look like an insignificant bread crumb.. Atm Im more psyched about teleportation! ...The day when we wont have to wait more than 1 hour for a delivery... GOD what a wonderful day that will be. (1 hour because they will need to put the item in the teleporter pad, thing lol)

[Chantelle]

I miss the days when hardware excited me... maybe when there's a breakthrough in quantum computing and it becomes commercial, I'll be trilled once more.

Must admit I am kind of in the same boat.

Graphics card aside most of my main computer is a few years old now and could do with a new rig.

I have a decent GPu and a very nice new screen.. but keep thinking about doing the rig, just cannot either be bothered or justify it.

I think this summer I might just put together an core i5 4-8 GB ram and be done with it.

[Akimoto]

Ok. I'm getting a new computer. Selling the old one.

These are the pieces I will ... get... somehow. Please let me know if there is any issues with them. That is, if you bother. However I would appreciate it.


Power:
Corsair HX 750W PSU (1079.00 NOK)

CPU Cooler:
Corsair H50 Hydro Series CPU Cooler (799.00 NOK)

CPU:
Intel Core i7 Processor i7-920 2.66GHz 8MB LGA1366 CPU (Unknown estimated $200-350)

Memory (RAM):
Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600MHz 4GB CL9 (1099.00 NOK)

Case:
Cooler Master HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Chassis (1259.00 NOK)

Graphic Card:
XFX GeForce GTX 260 576M 896MB (1200.00 NOK)

Operative system:
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium EN (975.00 NOK)

Motherboard:
ASUS P6X58D Premium, X58, Socket-1366 (2495.00 NOK)

[Chantelle]

Nothing wrong with that

The only thing I would say is this, if you want ultimate gaming performance, then Id consider maybe saving some money on the processor and putting more into the graphics card.

The core i5 750 is supposed to be really good! (this would mean swapping the motherboard too). but is cheaper

That way you could have a better graphics card which would in balance give you greater gaming performance..

I don't know about you but in English stores and money you'd be able to get a GT285..

Not saying do that but it is just worth a thought.

Nice case by the way, had a look at them the other day.

[RVCA]

or just torrent win7 and use those funds for a better gpu

[jawfin]

or just torrent win7 and use those funds for a better gpu

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